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as i put i do think he has improved enrique,henderson,downing turned brad jones into a very decent back up keeper and without a doubt suarez is a miles better player under rodgers than dalglish , ok liverpool have had some terrible performance but also some very good displays deserving more and not getting more , now was rodgers right to play so called weakened teams in the cups ??? some believe he should have played weak teams in the league and just concentrated on the cups , but i do believe he is doing fine and there is very big signs of improvement . Th@t's nonsense. I doubt if there is @ single LFC f@n in the entire cosmos, let @lone kopt@lk, who h@s @dvoc@ted pl@ying @ we@k te@m in @ny le@gue g@me this se@son.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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a little touch of the curate's egg about him Please enlighten me ??   I was sceptical when we appointed him, but he's really winning me over. I feel like something positive is being built there. We're buying good young players, instead of over-paying on players who can't be arsed/are no longer up to it, he's improved pretty much every player in the squad since he's arrived and we're giving our academy players more of a chance. One gripe is I would have loved to have seen him give Carroll a chance. Given how he's improved Downing and Henderson in particular I think AC deserved a bit more of an opportunity. Some of his selections and tactics have been poor and cost us points, also he hasn't got to grips with our leaking defence, and then there's his mouth. However I've been a believer in him from them start and I accept that he's doing well with a thin squad and he's learning as evidenced by our last few games. Despite my criticism I will give him thumbs up and I hope he gets a couple of seasons and the appropriate financing from FSG. Agree with all your points, however, I was looking for enlightenment regarding the 'curate's egg' phrase. Never heard such an idiom (is it an idiom ??) before. About time this forum got a bit more verbose The curate's egg is a saying that means something is good in parts and therefore not good in other parts, though there's more to it than meets the eye, as it could be taken to mean something is all bad and one is trying to find some redeeming features, however that was not my intention. Do you find that enlightening Basil? Or do you find it obscured by the inaluctable modality and irrestible exuburance of it's laconic verbosity?
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Interesting deb@te. I suggest th@t whilst we're not @n est@blished top 4 te@m, the cups rem@in very import@nt for v@rious resons:
1. It gives the pl@yers @ t@ste of winning. Not only should th@t m@ke them w@nt more, it should @lso give them @ huge boost of confidence @nd self-belief.
2. It sends sign@l to riv@ls th@t they need to bew@re.
3. It keeps the 'h@ven't won @nything for x ye@rs' monkey off our b@ck.
4. It gives the f@ns soemthing to cheer @bout.
e.g. 1976, 2001, 2005
Kenny getting us to two cup fin@ls, winning one l@st se@son w@s @ stepping stone. If 4th w@sn't @ re@listic t@rget this se@son, then we should've given the cups @ lot more @ttention. Once we're finishing top 4 seson in season out @nd chllenging for the title, th@t's when I think we c@n perh@ps think of signific@nt squ@d rot@tion for the cups. wh@t the f*ck is going on with your keybo@rd? also am not so sure that what you list on points 1,2 and 4 are exclusive to the cups....surely all of those can come from league wins too? support c@ll logged for keybo@rd problem - @pologies in the me@ntime. re: points 1,2 & 4 - winning a cup me@ns you've won the tourn@ment. You experience the QF, SF & Fin@l, hopefully you beat a big team or two along the w@y @nd you add titles to your honours list. Pl@yers get winners medals and the memories of a wembley cup final to keep forever. Le@gue wins don't do @ny of that. You'd need to win about 10 league games on the bounce to have @n extrordinry effect. At the moment I don't think we've managed even 3.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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I'm glad he's not starting at the moment. But it frustrates me to see a '15 million pound' player not Even make the starting line up and sit on the bench every week. Suppose it's a great example of how an average player can look very good around a team of poor players ( I'm talking about when he was at Swansea of course)
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The curate's egg is a saying that means something is good in parts and therefore not good in other parts, though there's more to it than meets the eye, as it could be taken to mean something is all bad and one is trying to find some redeeming features, however that was not my intention. Do you find that enlightening Basil?
Or do you find it obscured by the inaluctable modality and irrestible exuburance of it's laconic verbosity? Enlightening indeed, thanks 
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as i put i do think he has improved enrique,henderson,downing turned brad jones into a very decent back up keeper and without a doubt suarez is a miles better player under rodgers than dalglish , ok liverpool have had some terrible performance but also some very good displays deserving more and not getting more , now was rodgers right to play so called weakened teams in the cups ??? some believe he should have played weak teams in the league and just concentrated on the cups , but i do believe he is doing fine and there is very big signs of improvement . Most players need some time to settle, so I would think they are just playing better as expected. Suarez is MILES better now? I don't agree, he was very good since he arrived, scoring more yes, because he has been playing as a lone striker most of the time this year + last year after the Evra affair, there was a dip in form which can be understood. Indeed, there are big signs of improvement, but mostly over his own start of the season. We did have a few great wins last year, against Chelsea and also against both Manchester clubs in the Cups, but we were quite inconsistent, especially in the league. We are still inconsistent, but getting better. Hopefully we will consistently be better and better. few months ago only in november he said downing and enrique could leave they have both knuckled down and showed massive inprovement same for henderson , you wouldnt have him sub in november now he is a first team pick because of his improvement , and suarez is a well better player than last more clinical less selfish and in the most cut out the diving and cheating so surely the manager must get some credit for these positive changes .
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as i put i do think he has improved enrique,henderson,downing turned brad jones into a very decent back up keeper and without a doubt suarez is a miles better player under rodgers than dalglish , ok liverpool have had some terrible performance but also some very good displays deserving more and not getting more , now was rodgers right to play so called weakened teams in the cups ??? some believe he should have played weak teams in the league and just concentrated on the cups , but i do believe he is doing fine and there is very big signs of improvement . Th@t's nonsense. I doubt if there is @ single LFC f@n in the entire cosmos, let @lone kopt@lk, who h@s @dvoc@ted pl@ying @ we@k te@m in @ny le@gue g@me this se@son. i think coolflames would !!!!
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Madness to employ dalglish but its the past now move on.
Which I think we are doing maddness to sack him.but yes we are moving on.
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As long as he is not manager emp or ever will be again I don't care
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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shame cause if he got this year we would be easily in the top 4. instead its starting from scratch.
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