KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Enough is Enough! #FSGout #WeComeNotToPay

Mistakes were made on both parties regarding the final day of the transfer window in that BR should have been certain that a replacement was coming in for Carroll but beyond the strikers issue, we were not that stuck in any other area of the pitch due to the youngsters who don't have to be registered.

So they are good owners for hitting FFP?

where did I say I would be happy if they had brought in no one? No one but they have brought in players? That's a nonsense argument.

What is the minimum possible? We had the 5th highest net spend I think this summer? Thats certainly increased if January is combined with it.

We had a massive outlay in the summer of 2011 as well?

Their actual day to day running of the club is decent. Where they need to get the finger out is on the stadium issue

Your statement... And I quote

"We spent 150mil on players the last few years, total not net. I never mentioned net. The owners didn't have to release those funds if they didn't want to.
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Suggests that they didnt have to buy anyone...

They are not fit owners, From day 1 a CEO should have been appointed.

They brought in their PR man... They failed.

They could have bought a Cisse or Jelavic last Jan to push us to fourth.. They failed

They have failed to equip the manager with sufficient players.

They have failed on the Stadium issue.

They have failed in every transfer window, Failed to carry out due diligence time and time again..

They are successful at failing.

they didn't have to buy anyone if they didn't want to. It doesn't mean I'd be happy about it though but it is money spent on transfers.

Jelavic was a risk coming from the Scottish League. You are dismissing Ince's transfer because he is playing in the championship which is a higher standard than Scotland.

We have bought Carroll, Suarez, Bellamy, Coates, Henderson, Downing, Adam, Enrique, Doni, Sturridge, Allen, Borini and Assaidi since they came in. BR didn't see the value in keeping several of them and he got rid of them in one foul swoop, reducing the wage bill last summer. He is now in the process of rebuilding his squad as he sees fit but that will take at least the summer window before it comes together but as it stands we are not too short of depth anywhere now.

They haven't failed yet on the stadium issue. I think something needs to be done soon about it but I am still patient on that front

The stadium issue is a complete failure no question there pal

They had to have had the fund to purchase a new stadium as part of the takeover... Where is it?

Anfield, Is a mess. It's a ghost town and has been for 8 years or so... FSG are directly responsible for the last 2 of them..

So they bring in players great! Al team do.. Some of them didn't work out... No team brings in players and they all work out.

So in your eye's FSG have not done anything wrong?

I already made a list of some of their mistakes including the stadium issue.

So they have brought players in? I don't know what the issue is apart from the stadium to be honest?

Re-read the entire thread then

Well you keep contradicting yourself about transfers and wages and hitting FFP and all sorts apart from the stadium so I genuinely have lost track of what you're trying to say

Resorting to insults to "prove a point" Wow thats a bit hypocritical, I thought better of you KP.

It seems you have failed to read the entire thread where balanced views are clearly found.

Oh well. Lost my all respect in one fail swoop! Congratulations!

It seems the Stadium question is still with us even though FSg have stated they wish to revamp Anfield.I would welcome a new Stadium but Im happy to stay if they can do the revamp well.For those who may not have seen these pictures yet you may like to take a peek through the past and see the ghostly imprints on [url=Anfiehttp://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/multimedia/liverpool-fc/2012/12/12/anfield-stadium-home-of-liverpool-fc-then-now-and-together-by-mike-price-100252-32404943/ld.?][url=Anfiehttp://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/multimedia/liverpool-fc/2012/12/12/anfield-stadium-home-of-liverpool-fc-then-now-and-together-by-mike-price-100252-32404943/ld.?][url=Anfiehttp://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/multimedia/liverpool-fc/2012/12/12/anfield-stadium-home-of-liverpool-fc-then-now-and-together-by-mike-price-100252-32404943/ld.?]Anfiehttp://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/multimedia/liverpool-fc/2012/12/12/anfield-stadium-home-of-liverpool-fc-then-now-and-together-by-mike-price-100252-32404943/ld.?[/url][/url][/url]

I know, long script. sorry!

Self esteem issues? What on earth are you talking about? You claimed I am suspect to hyperbole and then said I'm suspect to some of that FS gout! 48 hours ago in this very thread then said I was just teasing...

Then call me refer to me as being like a petulant child! That is a direct personal insult!

Anyway this thread is not about me! This is about FSG being unfit owners... Which they have a proven track record in...

Why do they deserve the benefit of the doubt? Why do they deserve more time?

They've had 30 months already! Yes we have a good academy no denying that. But FSG have done very little to that structure. That is part of the Rafa legacy and Pep and Rodolfo's work. Not FSG.

I see nothing from them in terms of investment, Nothing in terms of a Stadium and nothing in terms of being astute football owners.

If you have faith in them great! I do not see it. A few others agree. It's not all FSG's fault. The KK and DC signings were almost complete failures.. But they as owners are responsible...

In business... If I was to employ someone (which I have on a regular basis) and that person was to fail. Then not only are they responsible for poor performance etc but I would be for an error of judgement at least.

That's what happens in the real world. FSG are not infallible just because they bought the club and so called saved us.

I see no reason why football should be any different. They should be held accountable.