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In all your posts you seem to mention the "team" that Rafa had...a team with Torres, Alonso, Mascherano, Kuyt, Maxi Rodriguez, Agger etc etc...
Let me remind you of one little fact...These players that you rate so highly and class as much much better than what we have now, were discovered and signed by Benitez. Other than Mascherano, non of those players were well known, they were hidden gems. Including Luis Garcia and Arbeloa... They werte hidden gems who were discovered by Benitez and his team...
I do however agree that they were much much better than the players we have now...but that's because we choose to sign Allen and Borini now, whilst Benitez was chasing David Villa and Torres...
Oh and next time you suggest I open my own thread and give a title, perhaps you could be a bit more civilized and not try and classify me as someone who pisses and moans just because I don't agree with your views. Try and conduct yourself like you haven't just come out of a cave...
If you had one fact to back up your argument, perhaps I would agree with you, but you don't...so I won't!
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We have what? 16 players in out of 25 which were eligible for compeition...
Lost the likes of Bellamy, Kuyt, Maxi, Aurellio and to a lesser extent Aquallani!
Kids in their rookie Season cannot be compared to them in terms of Quality!!!
Worst squad in the last 10 years. Defo I'd say. Are you saying then that our squad last season was better than this season? If that is the case, then it would mean that we have wrongly invested about 40m (or about 30m net spent if you prefer) Exactly, if BR has the worst squad out of the 3 managers then why the hell did he get rid of the players he needed? Why did he replace them with worse players? almost 40 million has been invested...Why is the squad weaker?
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We have what? 16 players in out of 25 which were eligible for compeition...
Lost the likes of Bellamy, Kuyt, Maxi, Aurellio and to a lesser extent Aquallani!
Kids in their rookie Season cannot be compared to them in terms of Quality!!!
Worst squad in the last 10 years. Defo I'd say. Are you saying then that our squad last season was better than this season? If that is the case, then it would mean that we have wrongly invested about 40m (or about 30m net spent if you prefer) Exactly, if BR has the worst squad out of the 3 managers then why the hell did he get rid of the players he needed? Why did he replace them with worse players? almost 40 million has been invested... Why is the squad weaker? Would have thought that was obvious to be fair. No-one over the age of what 23 has been putchased. Got rid of like 12 players in total in the summer if you also include players from youth etc.. Massively reduced playing staff. So much so we registered 16 players for this years league competition. Then the replacements? Or additions we did get are all young and are not seasoned pro's like Kuyt and Maxi... Can't compare Suso and Sterling to players which have played in multiple world cups and european ties... The squad is thin and bare and lack quality.
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In all your posts you seem to mention the "team" that Rafa had...a team with Torres, Alonso, Mascherano, Kuyt, Maxi Rodriguez, Agger etc etc...
Let me remind you of one little fact...These players that you rate so highly and class as much much better than what we have now, were discovered and signed by Benitez. Other than Mascherano, non of those players were well known, they were hidden gems. Including Luis Garcia and Arbeloa... They werte hidden gems who were discovered by Benitez and his team...
I do however agree that they were much much better than the players we have now...but that's because we choose to sign Allen and Borini now, whilst Benitez was chasing David Villa and Torres...
Oh and next time you suggest I open my own thread and give a title, perhaps you could be a bit more civilized and not try and classify me as someone who pisses and moans just because I don't agree with your views. Try and conduct yourself like you haven't just come out of a cave...
If you had one fact to back up your argument, perhaps I would agree with you, but you don't...so I won't! So Rafa did lots of great stuff in his time here! Thanks, I'm delighted for you and him for that (Please read again ... the original topic posted, if you still think it's about Rafa or his players to the degree you're going on with, I can't help you) Have a good one !!!
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Here is a quote from your original post>
What BR looks like he's going to achieve his season (currently looks on target) is finish in or around the same points total, if not better than Rafa's last season(58) KK one full season(52) and all working with a nothing budget, a very thin, young squad, playing attacking, passing football. Also over hauling the whole philosophy and mentality of the club. With no Maxi, Beller's, Kuyt, Carroll, Torres for example! KK had no European football to worry about. Which really shows how poor a job Rafa & KK did, or how well Rodgers is doing, or a mix of both.
Now, firstly BR has not overhauled the entire philosophy and mentality at the club. As a matter of fact I am starting to doubt you understand the meaning of the word philosophy. Could you please explain what you mean by: He has changed the philosophy and mentality of the club? Could you give us an example? IMO The only thing he has changed is that we now expect less and hope we get a europa league spot.
As for the 2nd part of the post, here's a quote:
Which really shows how poor a job Rafa & KK did, or how well Rodgers is doing, or a mix of both.....
Now if that isn't a comparison between the 2 I don't know what is. So please refrain from lying and reffering me to your original post if you don't know what you wrote yourself. You made a comparison and I just replied with my view. Stop trying to be a smart ass and acuse me of bitc*ing and moaning when the fact is, I replied to your original post and the arguments you put out.
Thank you and good night...
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It's not about arguing the pluses or minuses of Rafa or Kenny. However i do find it very rich when you call me whingy son...Hahahahaha pot, kettle....anyways...
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