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Joined: Sep 2012
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Benitez had the hardest job IMO and he passed it with flying colours. He was never given 100m to spend, not even the figure given to BR in 2012/2013. Yet, he managed to wheel and deal and put together a world class team that consistently challenged the scum and cash rich chavs.
Imagine if Rafa was given funds to spend on his preferred signings. I dont know where you get your figures from but Benitez was given 229 million pounds during his reign, he spent 27.5 million first season, 26.73 million second season, 27.15 million third season, 70.7 million fourth season, 39 million fifth season and 36.76 million in his last season totaling 229 million pounds worth of the Clubs money spent. You say he challenged the top two consistantly, what evidence are you basing this on first season we finished 37 points behind, second season 9 points behind, third season 21 points behind, fourth season 11 points behind, fifth season was the closest and only ever challenge where we finished 4 points behind and in his last season we finished 23 points behind, is this what you call consistantly challenging the top two. We challenged them in the cups, kicked their ass in europe and became the No1 ranked club in the world following 2 CL finals in 3 years. Rafa's only 'flaw' was putting the importance of the league behind the CL, but maybe that was a club decision based on financials? Either way, whilst he never won us the league he took us close and had us in europe constantly. We were undeniably better under rafa than we we were under houllier, dalglish, hodgson & rodgson. you never judge on Cup form, it always has to be how you perform in the League and benitez was out of his depth in the Premier League, one title challenge after xmas in 6 years is ample proof...
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Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 17,444
1st Team Regular
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Benitez had the hardest job IMO and he passed it with flying colours. He was never given 100m to spend, not even the figure given to BR in 2012/2013. Yet, he managed to wheel and deal and put together a world class team that consistently challenged the scum and cash rich chavs.
Imagine if Rafa was given funds to spend on his preferred signings. I dont know where you get your figures from but Benitez was given 229 million pounds during his reign, he spent 27.5 million first season, 26.73 million second season, 27.15 million third season, 70.7 million fourth season, 39 million fifth season and 36.76 million in his last season totaling 229 million pounds worth of the Clubs money spent. You say he challenged the top two consistantly, what evidence are you basing this on first season we finished 37 points behind, second season 9 points behind, third season 21 points behind, fourth season 11 points behind, fifth season was the closest and only ever challenge where we finished 4 points behind and in his last season we finished 23 points behind, is this what you call consistantly challenging the top two. We challenged them in the cups, kicked their ass in europe and became the No1 ranked club in the world following 2 CL finals in 3 years. Rafa's only 'flaw' was putting the importance of the league behind the CL, but maybe that was a club decision based on financials? Either way, whilst he never won us the league he took us close and had us in europe constantly. We were undeniably better under rafa than we we were under houllier, dalglish, hodgson & rodgson. you never judge on Cup form, it always has to be how you perform in the League and benitez was out of his depth in the Premier League, one title challenge after xmas in 6 years is ample proof... but want about the cups, barnsley, havant and waterlooville, arsenal reserves, reading, a very poor everton team at the time .
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Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 148
Under 16 Player
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Joined: Aug 2011
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We'll win the Champions League in May
We beat Chelsea on the way
We sent Mourinho insane
We'll bring the cup back home again
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Joined: Jun 2009
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We'll win the Champions League in May
We beat Chelsea on the way
We sent Mourinho insane
We'll bring the cup back home again
yes a long time ago , i remember when we used to play we are the champions at the end of every season when we used to be the best team in the world like in 1984 but its a very long time ago .
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,279
Under 23 Player
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Under 23 Player
Joined: Dec 2010
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Benitez had the hardest job IMO and he passed it with flying colours. He was never given 100m to spend, not even the figure given to BR in 2012/2013. Yet, he managed to wheel and deal and put together a world class team that consistently challenged the scum and cash rich chavs.
Imagine if Rafa was given funds to spend on his preferred signings. how did benitez have the hardest job , he inherited a team 4th in the league , with players like hyypia, carragher, gerrard , smicer , kewell, riise, dudek , finnan , even owen was still avaliable with a few younger players with international games under belt IE baros and cisse , there is no doubt in my mind brendan rodgers has had the hardest job since shankly took over , with no money , young inexperienced players , big players leaving or getting to the end of there careers IE gerrard and carragher , and some of the fan base not willing to except him because they want chelsea's manager or a failed ex manager(dalglish) too return . Come on Faz... surely it has to be Roy. He was appointed by Purslow I think when H&G were at their worst, the club was in turmoil, he knew it was for sale and he had no idea what would happen to him afterwards. He probably had less to spend than BR and he was much closer to Rafa's successful period. Added to that the fans doubted him , Kenny was in the background and the fans were chanting for Kenny too. Compared to all that, BR came in after we had finished 8th so expecations were much lower; he's been told that the medium term is more important it seems; he had £25m to spend in the summer on transfer fees.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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Benitez had the hardest job IMO and he passed it with flying colours. He was never given 100m to spend, not even the figure given to BR in 2012/2013. Yet, he managed to wheel and deal and put together a world class team that consistently challenged the scum and cash rich chavs.
Imagine if Rafa was given funds to spend on his preferred signings. how did benitez have the hardest job , he inherited a team 4th in the league , with players like hyypia, carragher, gerrard , smicer , kewell, riise, dudek , finnan , even owen was still avaliable with a few younger players with international games under belt IE baros and cisse , there is no doubt in my mind brendan rodgers has had the hardest job since shankly took over , with no money , young inexperienced players , big players leaving or getting to the end of there careers IE gerrard and carragher , and some of the fan base not willing to except him because they want chelsea's manager or a failed ex manager(dalglish) too return . Come on Faz... surely it has to be Roy. He was appointed by Purslow I think when H&G were at their worst, the club was in turmoil, he knew it was for sale and he had no idea what would happen to him afterwards. He probably had less to spend than BR and he was much closer to Rafa's successful period. Added to that the fans doubted him , Kenny was in the background and the fans were chanting for Kenny too. Compared to all that, BR came in after we had finished 8th so expecations were much lower; he's been told that the medium term is more important it seems; he had £25m to spend in the summer on transfer fees. agree about Roy H but the squad was better at the time still established players , not young kids like now
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Under 23 Player
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agree about Roy H but the squad was better at the time still established players , not young kids like now possibly, but the strongest part of the squad was on the wane. Alonso gone, Torres had the hump, Mascherano too. Compared to that, BR inherited a pretty good back 5. No issues there at all. Add to that Lucas, Suarez and the emergence of Raheem. Plus his own additions in Allen and Borini. I don't think BR has too much to complain about. If he tried to make limmited players play like Messi, Inniesta and Xavi then that's his own fault isn't it?
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 15,010
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always amused at suggestions that our squad is weak. its better than most, and certainly better than a lot of the teams we have lost to this season. its a non excuse as far as im concerned.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,416
Moderator
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Joined: Jul 2009
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We've been sh1t coming up on 3 years now,to many players with loser mentality, 1 great player,some promising young lads,some average and the rest useless.
"Romance has broke down
This boy is crack'in up"
So not a moderator
Valar Morghulis
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Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 308
Under 16 Player
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and don't forget the hat trick of average managers too
dont be an hater, take the banter!
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