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Arsenal fans are the biggest whingers of them all.
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I think some criticisms of BR's transfers so far are fair. Allen and Borini were bought for the future as well as the present, because they're both very young - something I think a lot of people forget - but with that in mind, I think it's fair when people raise the point that they may not have been the right transfers are the right time - particularly Borini.
The club needed established players for now, and although you need the balance between established professionals and future prospects, I think that maybe the balance was too far off, and too orientated towards the future, with not enough emphasis on improving the current team.
These players may yet prove to be fantastic players for LFC for years to come, but with the likes of Ince and Sturridge due to come in, you could argue that he's considering in the same direction - albeit Sturridge is a bit older with a bit more experience at the top level. I think a 3rd (loan) signing with more experience may be vital.
As for Allen not contributing, he won the club's player of the month award for the first month, and up until 4-6 weeks ago, he looked fantastic and an amazing signing. He has hit a bad patch since then and is not only not contributing enough, but he's making a lot of mistakes. That's no reason to forget that he started his LFC career off very well though. Hopefully he can regain that form sooner rather than later. Personally, Sahin has been a bigger disappointment than Allen. +1 great post. A loan signing with experience in January is vital. At the moment i'd take Sturridge and Ince i reckon they'll do ALOT better and contribute way, way more than our current fringe players (subs) and probably more than our current starting 11. I like Allen alot he has dropped a bit in recent weeks but for the best part of the season he's looked more comfortable than the majority of our team bar maybe Skrtel, Agger and Suarez. Borini im not so sure from the day he was signed i didn't see him fitting in i can see why we signed him though he made a few good runs in the games he played and he's like Kuyt he never tires.
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Brilliant post Marko.Totaly makes sense and it is my own sentiments exactly.Fans are being spoon fed garbage from the owners and the manager on the understanding that it is a plan in progress.It is nothing of the sort.It is purely a decline in standards, a decline in funding and a decline in ambition.Fans need to wake upto it and not be so ready to accept it as many are doing so.Fsg need to go and take Rodgers with them. You again, you cribbed about Kenny last season and swooned over Rodgers, now take your medicine.
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+1
do you not think though that we bought into the new project of talented youth. we had to stop trying to compete at the top end due to prices and wages and the only way to do this is offer talented youth the opportunity to shine. Both Chelsea and City have a massive problem now in that young players are not so sure whether to join - look at Sinclair at City, and Johnson before him.
we have finally stopped trying to sign cast offs from other teams and build a young hungry talented squad. To abandon this now would be foolish. Look at Dortmund, Schalke, Ajax and even the next generation of Barca players. It's time we accepted the bumpy ride which is ahead of us and supported what we have.
on saturday BR made his first major mistake, bringing cole on instead of Suso, the future is the Suso's in my eyes. Earlier in the season he brought him on in the UTD game when we had 10 men, so why not now?
we as fans have to accept that we are two years away from consistency of any sort. but then we will have a young settled team. While I agree with that for the most part, at the time I wasn't surprised, and could see the logic in it. After starting a consecutive number of games earlier in the season, Suso seems to have fallen out of favour lately. I don't know if that's due to his performances on the pitch, or maybe his performances in training. Whatever the reason, we've all seen that he hasn't started or even come on in many games the last while. The match before last weekend, Joe Cole did reasonably well and scored a good goal - you could argue that after this, he deserved the chance again against Villa. On top of this, Cole has been heavily touted to be moving to QPR as soon as the window opens, so giving him game time may help the club's case financially, if they're trying to send him out on a permanent transfer. I would rather see Suso play ahead of Cole, but for those reasons, I wasn't surprised Cole got the nod ahead of him last weekend.
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As for Allen not contributing, he won the club's player of the month award for the first month, and up until 4-6 weeks ago, he looked fantastic and an amazing signing. He has hit a bad patch since then and is not only not contributing enough, but he's making a lot of mistakes. That's no reason to forget that he started his LFC career off very well though. Hopefully he can regain that form sooner rather than later. Personally, Sahin has been a bigger disappointment than Allen.
Agreed Sahin has been the biggest disappointment but to get sahin on loan was a bit of a coup and I don't blame Rodgers for that. I thought he was a really good signing at the time as well so wouldn't criticize him for sahin's performances. I don't take much notice of LFC player of the month cause it's all based on whatever the flavour is. Most fans became all about stats and how many passes people were making for a bit but they are moving away from that now. My belief that he was a choice at the wrong time doesn't stem from recent performances, it stems from all of his performances. If he played like he did the month he won LFC POTM every month I'd still think it because he didn't contribute nearly enough. I'm not saying don't give him time or that he won't be good or even great in that time (I don't think many people are unlike KP tried to make out), just like I said before and you said, he was a choice at the wrong time.
It means that you are a lot less relevant than you think you are, and that unless the vast majority of fans are wrong, you know a lot less than you think you do. Apart from that it hasn't got much to do with anything since most of us know that already.
No it categorically doesn't. I go to every home game I can, admittedly as I've got older work has stood more and more in the way of that, and 1. Plenty of people at the games level criticisms and 2. The vast majority of our fans, yes the ones that pay LFC bills and are the key to our development and funding, are those that cannot attend the games. A LARGE portion aren't even from this country. So your point is just fatuous. Talking about 'the fans at the game' shows no relevance what so ever. I don't want Rodgers gone like CarheeX seems to before you level that at me, I want him to be given more than a year barring a ridiculous slide.
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