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People condoning this or finding it funny are well out of order, same people probably find sick jokes, songs about disasters or racial or religious songs funny too, this forum needs a good clean up as some of the things being said cross the line... Whilst I don't condone it, and think it is disgraceful, i really don't think posters comments on the topic are crossing the line...That's being a bit dramatic don't you think? nope not at all, how can people find a player nearly losing an eye funny not dramatic, depends I suppose on where ure tolerance level is on such things, maybe west ham fans laughing at Jews being gassed, maybe songs about players dying in an air crash, what about Liverpool fans singing about a doctor who murdered pensioners, I really don't know like I say everyone has there own level of what is or isn't acceptable, I just think anyone laughing at any player getting hurt or injured is not acceptable nor should people find it funny or condone it... What about internet trolls should they be punished? If so how do you differentiate between for example someone posting abusive bullying messages to a bereaved person on facebook and someone who pollutes football forums??????????? What about libellous statements made on the internet? About football managers and players. Do you think that is acceptable?, And then there is people being accused of all sorts on the net, having their name linked with jimmy saville on google when they are innocent. My point is that your moral outrage may not be universal. I don't like to see players getting one another sent off but its become accepted in the game , if not why dont they step in and ban players that roll around in the floor in 'agony'? What carragher did to nani's leg was as bad if not worse but that didnt get condemned at all. So easy to g et on your high horse isnt it
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People condoning this or finding it funny are well out of order, same people probably find sick jokes, songs about disasters or racial or religious songs funny too, this forum needs a good clean up as some of the things being said cross the line... Whilst I don't condone it, and think it is disgraceful, i really don't think posters comments on the topic are crossing the line...That's being a bit dramatic don't you think? nope not at all, how can people find a player nearly losing an eye funny not dramatic, depends I suppose on where ure tolerance level is on such things, maybe west ham fans laughing at Jews being gassed, maybe songs about players dying in an air crash, what about Liverpool fans singing about a doctor who murdered pensioners, I really don't know like I say everyone has there own level of what is or isn't acceptable, I just think anyone laughing at any player getting hurt or injured is not acceptable nor should people find it funny or condone it... What about internet trolls should they be punished? If so how do you differentiate between for example someone posting abusive bullying messages to a bereaved person on facebook and someone who pollutes football forums??????????? What about libellous statements made on the internet? About football managers and players. Do you think that is acceptable?, And then there is people being accused of all sorts on the net, having their name linked with jimmy saville on google when they are innocent. My point is that your moral outrage may not be universal. I don't like to see players getting one another sent off but its become accepted in the game , if not why dont they step in and ban players that roll around in the floor in 'agony'? What carragher did to nani's leg was as bad if not worse but that didnt get condemned at all. So easy to g et on your high horse isnt it i think there is laws already in place in civil courts regarding players who delibrately hurt or harm another player, didn't that player who play for Leeds try to get Roy Keane done for ending his career. When it comes to cheats and divers my rule would be simple, send them off if they do it, they would soon stop. I think there is a fine line with so called Internet trolls, I think if somebody brings a point of view which has substance or an element of truth then he can't be one as its a forum and controversial topics are what get debated most, so I think if he stays within the forum rules then no problem whatsoever, think situations where a few posters gang up on somebody all at the same time is a lot more serious, that's where you need a strong moderator...
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i have been to a few away games where thousands of liverpool fans have sung about harold shipman. I would think the majority are either too thick or just go along with it on the day. They dont really admire harold shipman but this is what happens. Once again Joe Cool has a very good point. For me anyone throwing anything at a football game should be banned i have also seen reds fans splattered by coke cans or coffee thrown by fellow oafish reds fans. The answer is self policing by fans and full cctv everywhere. This should be announced before the game instead of that racist thing they do which is patronising and out of date the real issue is bad fan behaviour always has and always will be i have no problem with that encompasssing racisim etc as well
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No one on here is disputing the fact that the fan in question should be banned and fined, but to say that anyone who had a giggle at Rio's expense also finds the holocaust funny, the munich disaster and such is just nonsense. I had a giggle at Rio's expense and I most certainly do not find loss of life funny. I would never throw anything at anyone, be it Rio, Neville, Ronaldo...whoever..I think it is unacceptable. But JoeCool is claiming that I have a mental issue since I had a giggle at Rio's expense...I think that is just being dramatic...
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No one on here is disputing the fact that the fan in question should be banned and fined, but to say that anyone who had a giggle at Rio's expense also finds the holocaust funny, the munich disaster and such is just nonsense. I had a giggle at Rio's expense and I most certainly do not find loss of life funny. I would never throw anything at anyone, be it Rio, Neville, Ronaldo...whoever..I think it is unacceptable. But JoeCool is claiming that I have a mental issue since I had a giggle at Rio's expense...I think that is just being dramatic... agreed he can be over dramatic
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who Liverpool fans? That's a song opposing fans sing about us is'nt it " always the victims, it's never your fault " so which opposing team do you support then, must be one to come out with such a line, what's your next gonna be " you know what you are " that's another...
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No one on here is disputing the fact that the fan in question should be banned and fined, but to say that anyone who had a giggle at Rio's expense also finds the holocaust funny, the munich disaster and such is just nonsense. I had a giggle at Rio's expense and I most certainly do not find loss of life funny. I would never throw anything at anyone, be it Rio, Neville, Ronaldo...whoever..I think it is unacceptable. But JoeCool is claiming that I have a mental issue since I had a giggle at Rio's expense...I think that is just being dramatic... agreed he can be over dramatic haha that's a good one Stanley talking about dramatic when you are on a forum whose majority of posters think the whole world is delibrately against our club, sir Alex is pulling the F.A strings and there is a conspiracy against St Luis Suarez haha, that's a good one Stanley gotta give ya that one...
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