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and i think he was thed driving force in those teams especially in sweden 1958

yes you're right faz but i think we're labouring the point here so i'll just lay it out...

but he stayed with santos and still was great player. he didn't need to go to the european teams to prove his brilliance. if he had played for ecuador it would not have made him less of a brilliant player.

the rationale laid out in points above suggests that it's questionable if gerrard was a great player on the basis that he chose not to take abramovic's money and run to an already successful team.

i don't think greatness depends on the club you go to. you can be world class without doing that.

it begs the question...does loyalty make you less world class?

i think torres for a few years was the best striker in the world. doesnt that put him in the worldclass bracket?. i didnt watch alot of batistuta but his reputation was northing short of worldclass.

I tend to agree with Joe here to a degree. There is however awlways a few exception to the rule. In Gerrards case for example, Zidane labelled him as world class and I believe he certainly was for a long part of his career. He is no longer world class but certainly was and I believe he will remembered as world class.
The argument for Pele, regardless of whether he moved to play at bigger clubs or not, he proved his class on the world stage and had a large influence on the outcome of the world cups that Brazil won.
Batistuta is another who I think was world class.
Suarez, although I have said he is world class is probably borderline. I believe he is the best striker in the prem, he has influenced result for his country on the world stage (not just the deliberate handball )and I think he would be welcomed in almost any team in the world regadless of whetehr it's club level or country.

A few have mentioned it but simply the ability to start in any team in the world. I think Suarez can walk into any team right now in terms of club football, yes even Barcelona, He is a better striker then Pedro, Alexis Sanchez, and Fabregas, he is probably in the same class as Benzema and Higuain (someone I don't really rate). There were rumours of Juventus after him who are currently a great side and rising in stock once again. I think he can walk into Bayern Munich even tho they have an array of strikers but he is in the same class as those. He is world class in my opinion.

Proper Hate the wole "world Class" term / discussions..

Is an international technically "world Class"???

If it's the best of the best, then is it for all positions or just the absolute 1 or 2 world beaters out there????


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good point about pele and i accept it but we must remember his career was in the 60's and 70's had he been around in present era i don't think there is anyway he would stay at santos