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world class is a level and not a performance stanley, simple as, the level required for me consists of not just playing but performing and being special in the biggest games as in World Cup Semi Final's or Finals, European Championship Finals, European Cup Semi Finals or Finals and Winning domestic League titles in one of the top Leagues you have to do this on a REGULAR basis not just one offs and actualy contribute something special in your Team winning them, not just appear in them like Djimi Traore or Milan Baros did for us. I think if you are a true world class player you will always have the opportunity to do these things because you SHOULD be playing for a world class club who will provide you with the platform, if you go throughout your career without playing for that type of Club then you only have yourself to blame for sacrifycing your own career by letting your heart dictate your head, ask Gerrard or Shearer about that one...

Suarez was consistently Ajax's best player for 3 years, he's come to us and now he's consistently been head and shoulders better than the rest in the last 2 years performance wise and he has a goal every other game, he also was Uruguay's best play when they got to the semi finals of the world cup and won the Copa America.

By your own standards he's world class, so why do you constantly abuse him and never give him credit for been a brilliant player?

suarez is a good player on his day but not world class i dont think the premier league has a true world class player in it , yes very good players that can produce world class feats IE glen johnson yesterday if cafu or roberto carlos had scored that goal would be classed as world class , johnson is a very good player but nowhere near world class .

so if you put Lucas into Celtics midfield, he would be head and shoulders above all the other players, would that make him world class because he stands out in a poor to average team...

That sounds like him.

No, he wouldn't. But going by your last post thats basically what you said so which is it? Also Lucas didn't practically win a Copa America for Brazil like Suarez done with Cavani, and they got them to the semi finals of the world cup, so again i ask which is it?

Please dont quote the Copa America, its hardly a World Cup or European Championships now is it, not with mighty teams like Columbia, Peru, Chile, Equador and Bolivia in it, even the two big Countries Argentina and Brazil are awful at the moment. Suarez scored goals for Ajax who play in a league not much better than the Scottish league just swap Hearts, Dundee United, Kilmarnock and the mighty Inverness CT for teams like AZ Alkmaar, Rhoda JC and FC Twente and you get the idea why Suarez scored so many goals. If you read my post properly which you obviously did not I said to be regarded as true World Class you needed to win the games very top honours not just in one offs but regulary and actualy do something in those games which directly contributed in your team winning them, this is what world class players like Zidane, Henri, Keane, Rivaldo, Dalglish, Souness, Beckenbaur, Cryuff e.t.c. all did, hope this clears things up for you...

So if you put Messi in the celtic team he wouldn't be world class as he wouldn't regularly win the games top honours?

if he had'nt win them before then no he certainly would'nt, similar to Wayne Rooney if he stayed at Everton or Le Tissier and Gascoine who both had fantastic talent but were never provided with the platform to showcase it so there was always a question mark next to them, true world class players have no question marks against them as they have been it, seen it and done it on more than one occasion...

I disagree, if they've got the ability then they've got the ability. It doesn't take anything away from them that some players, like Gerrard, decide to show loyalty rather than leaving to have a better chance of winning things.