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Good to see that consistency is applied to all 'abusive' posts.

He can say it all he wants, he's already said an improvement on last year by a single place will be an achievement. It's not an 'official target'. No way in hell are we getting top 4, he knows it, we know it, owners know it. Need to move on from cloud cookoo land now.

I just don't see it myself with this squad, a lot of teams are taking points off each other but as a few have said, time after time we fail to capitalise on them and move further up the table. We have been stuck in midtable for a while and its 15 games played almost halfway line. We need investment in January and a run of results to have a chance, both of which seem impossible at this stage. We will have to wait and see what happens in January because I think its crucial but as I said, I have my doubts.

liverpool will not finish 4th , unless january brings 3 or 4 players in and out go downing, henderson, cole at least

4th is as open as its been in a long while which gives Liverpool an outside chance of it but there are several teams far better placed to take advantage of it. Arsenal will struggle to keep pace for it if they lose a few more games and don't have the consistency of RVP this year to bail them out of games

I have mentioned several times that I am looking at us in 5game blocks in order to judge sensibly our progress. Top 4 will require 68+points if recent history continues.

1st 5 - 2points - 0.4pts per game
2nd 5 - 9points - 1.8pts per game
3rd 5 - 8points - 1.6pts per game

sadly I thought we would get more from either Spurs or Swansea. Steady though in the last 10. At 19 points we need a further 49points to be in the mix, so an average of 2.13points per game. Thats quite a challenge to be honest, 14/15 more wins is tough. Current 10 game average puts us on 59points.

can we raise our game enough to meet this challenge - i think we'll get 64points

Next 5 games

West Ham (A)
Aston Villa (H)
Fulham (H)
Stoke (A)
QPR(A)

10-12 points would be a good return from these 5 games I think, especially as we will be missing Suarez for the West Ham game.

These are the teams we should expect to beat, even W.Ham, at least 12 for me to show progress. For me we have still not shown proper progress so far as we got only 8 points in the last 5 games. 10 was the target.

the same West Ham who just beat Chelsea 3-1 and we are without Suarez? We also regularly struggle against Stoke.

I would be aiming to beat Villa, Fulham and QPR and stay unbeaten through the 5 game run

The way I look at it is by averages.
1 point a game = near relegation
2 points a game = champions league

So for five matches.... current average = 1.26 ppg (points per game)

5 or < = 1.0 ppg "kill me now"
6 - 7 = 1.2 - 1.4 "SAME OLD STORY"
8 - 9 = 1.6 - 1.8 "Shows real progress"
10 or > = 2.0 "maybe forth isn't dreaming"


I'd be happy with 2w 2d 1l