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Like you I thought even a draw was optimistic, but we really did look good last night and I feel we should of won it, just the same old same old.

Poor finishing and bad refereeing decisions.

Just think it would of made better sense to rest more players last nite in order to protect them a bit more for what has now become am even more important game against Southampton, dread to think what shape our sickly players will be in with what will be our third game in a week...

and you troll on and and on and on and on...

EVERY game in the League is important.

disagree with that, I think every game is important if your fighting for something, not if your mid table with no chance of getting Champions League and no chance of getting relegated, this if you have'nt noticed now applies to Liverpool Football Club in the year 2012...

So should all teams bar the top 4 just give up on the league? Once again Joe, a strange and ridiculous point...

If we're not fighting for anything why is the Southampton game important?

I think certain clubs have different agendas at the start of every season, I think if United, City or Chelsea dont win the League or Champions League I think they see it as a bad season, I think Arsenal see getting into the Champions League as bare minimum along with a Cup and maybe going out of the title race about April. I think Spurs look at pushing for a Champions League spot and maybe picking up a Europa League or domestic Cup. I think teams like Reading, Southampton, Norwich, Wigan, West Ham, Swansea and Q.P.R all look at staying up and maybe having a cup run, Newcastle and Everton look to qualify for the Europa League in a top 7 league position and maybe win a domestic cup and Clubs Like Stoke, Fulham, West Brom and Villa look at just consolidating a mid table place and maybe reaching a domestic cup final. I really dont know about us because I would definately put us in the mid table bracket along with Stoke, Fulham, West Brom and Villa but at the same time we dont want to win Cups because as soon as we are in them we want to get bounced out first chance we get as the fielding of weakend teams clearly shows.

It's a tricky one with us. On one hand, the stature of the club says we should be pushing for CL places and competing to win trophies. But the reality is that we're currently nowhere near that level. We ARE mid table in every sense of the word but some fans get upset when we act like a mid-table club. They think we should be spending like and acting like a top club in terms of transfer targets, wages, and how we prioritise competitions.

This is my whole point, our fans think we are something we are clearly no longer are, expectations of grandua, if we listened to them then we would be in serious trouble, spending money we clearly have'nt got. You can no longer buy players for 15 or 20 million pound and give them 60 grand a week if you are not continualy playing Champions League footie each season which we have'nt a hope in hells chance of doing...