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Originally Posted By: blind_faith
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
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he is 'proving' me right. And people like flames and others have now turned aginst him...

You bury your head in the sand if you like.


Not burying my head. Just not fickle enough to want a manager sacked 14 games into a new season. IF, and it's a big if, he gets backed by FSG in January and buys the players he wants and things still don't improve, then I'll start to question him more.

I'm not happy about where we are at the moment but I see no advantage in replacing Rodgers at this moment in time. We're all slating the 'plastic' Chavs for sacking their manager and you're suggesting we do the same. How would that make us any better.

And who would we get? Who could we attract? Let me guess, Rafa? I don't see any other top managers that would want the job. The owners don't look like they want to back THEIR man now so why would a new manager get any more financial backing?

As for your wanting of bad results to get rid of a manager, what kind of supporter are you? You say your not a WUM but you sure act like one.


i think chelsea have proven that regularly sacking managers can lead to success, madrid and milan have done it for years.

i aint fickle ive always thought rodgers wasnt up to it.


It's not worked that well for Chelsea really. Only a few cups but no real sustained challenge since Maureen went. And Madrid have been much better since having the stability of Maureen too. Sacking a manager so early on isn't always the way.

I am willing to accept that I may be wrong about Ridgers. But I'm not going to go down the 'I want him out' route until he's had a season. If the owners actually back him in the January window things may get a lot better. If they back him and they don't, then I might start changing my opinion.

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i genuinely dont know what is best, i hold my hands up and admit that.what i do know is that its not looking good at the minute.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: blind_faith
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: blind_faith
he is 'proving' me right. And people like flames and others have now turned aginst him...

You bury your head in the sand if you like.


Not burying my head. Just not fickle enough to want a manager sacked 14 games into a new season. IF, and it's a big if, he gets backed by FSG in January and buys the players he wants and things still don't improve, then I'll start to question him more.

I'm not happy about where we are at the moment but I see no advantage in replacing Rodgers at this moment in time. We're all slating the 'plastic' Chavs for sacking their manager and you're suggesting we do the same. How would that make us any better.

And who would we get? Who could we attract? Let me guess, Rafa? I don't see any other top managers that would want the job. The owners don't look like they want to back THEIR man now so why would a new manager get any more financial backing?

As for your wanting of bad results to get rid of a manager, what kind of supporter are you? You say your not a WUM but you sure act like one.


i think chelsea have proven that regularly sacking managers can lead to success, madrid and milan have done it for years.

i aint fickle ive always thought rodgers wasnt up to it.


It's not worked that well for Chelsea really. Only a few cups but no real sustained challenge since Maureen went. And Madrid have been much better since having the stability of Maureen too. Sacking a manager so early on isn't always the way.

I am willing to accept that I may be wrong about Ridgers. But I'm not going to go down the 'I want him out' route until he's had a season. If the owners actually back him in the January window things may get a lot better. If they back him and they don't, then I might start changing my opinion.


Chopping and changing managers is not a bad thing....
Chopping and changing managers is not a good thing....

Our success will be determined largely by the quality of our manager. If he does well he will stay - no one would want it any other way. But keeping him when we are going backwards, just because you don't approve of regular sackings, will not make him a better manager and it won't help us as a club.

The key is finding the right manager and I believe that we have seen more than enough to see that he isn't up to the job. When I see other new managers looking down the table at us from smaller clubs with less resources I find it very hard to accept, and it just makes the claims about needing time to implement his 'philosophy' seem like excuses to buy himself a bit longer in the job when it isn't deserved.

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So who do we look to? We're a club that some of its own supporters don't see as a big club anymore, we have no champions league and owners who some say are skint. This is why we can't attract the players we all would like e.g Cavanni. So with all that in mind who could we realistically expect to want the manages job? Martinez?

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The only person with a proven track record, who has done it before and would jump at the chance will be available in approximately 6 months.

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There's no going back car. And who's to say he'd do any better? He may have bought different players but when he had limited funds he did buy some duds.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
There's no going back car. And who's to say he'd do any better? He may have bought different players but when he had limited funds he did buy some duds.


Says who? and why not?

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
So who do we look to? We're a club that some of its own supporters don't see as a big club anymore, we have no champions league and owners who some say are skint. This is why we can't attract the players we all would like e.g Cavanni. So with all that in mind who could we realistically expect to want the manages job? Martinez?
thats a good point mate no top manager will touch us at the moment FSG have appointed BR and in doing so give him zilch to spend what top manager would work on the shoestring we would give him none thats how many , the football were playin is good i know the resuts havent come but lets give the guy until the end of the season if FSG dont back him in jan we will know he was put in charge to do as he is told and if thats the case were doomed because the owners wont employ a manager who will demand a decent transfer kitty .january is going to be interestin he dont get much money annd its goodnight vienna .

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
There's no going back car. And who's to say he'd do any better? He may have bought different players but when he had limited funds he did buy some duds.


Says who? and why not?


Keegan and Dalglish!

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Originally Posted By: REDROLO67
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
So who do we look to? We're a club that some of its own supporters don't see as a big club anymore, we have no champions league and owners who some say are skint. This is why we can't attract the players we all would like e.g Cavanni. So with all that in mind who could we realistically expect to want the manages job? Martinez?
thats a good point mate no top manager will touch us at the moment FSG have appointed BR and in doing so give him zilch to spend what top manager would work on the shoestring we would give him none thats how many , the football were playin is good i know the resuts havent come but lets give the guy until the end of the season if FSG dont back him in jan we will know he was put in charge to do as he is told and if thats the case were doomed because the owners wont employ a manager who will demand a decent transfer kitty .january is going to be interestin he dont get much money annd its goodnight vienna .


Exactly. People say its pie in the sky to expect signings like Cavanni, Huntelaar etc. but expect a world class manager! It'll never happen either.

January is when FSG's true intentions for the club will come out and as you say will be interesting.

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