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Joe based on the immediate past (2 years) then no we have no chance of fourth. But things could change the team could become better than the sum of the parts (when was the last time we saw that?) and new signings in January could contribute. Our rivals could have an indifferent season and we could (with luck) pip them to fourth place. Likely no possible yes. And where its possible we (as fans) should strive for it. no probs stanley, just about opinions really, I think two seasons is a decent starting point when judging how good a team is overall. I happen to be enjoying the football being played this season to be honest, I dont really look at where we might finish position wise, for me if we finished 14th and had more points than 52 which we got last season I would see that as better improvement than finishing 6th or 7th with 48 points, just me tho. There is no problem with you putting all your eggs in the FSG basket regarding the funds you think they will give us in January, I for one are pretty certain they wont give us what many fans on here think they are going to give us, my theory is they want to put as little in whilst taking maximum out, so although I think there might be a few quid I dont think it will be what people expect, I dont have confidence in FSG sorry...
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Joe based on the immediate past (2 years) then no we have no chance of fourth. But things could change the team could become better than the sum of the parts (when was the last time we saw that?) and new signings in January could contribute. Our rivals could have an indifferent season and we could (with luck) pip them to fourth place. Likely no possible yes. And where its possible we (as fans) should strive for it. no probs stanley, just about opinions really, I think two seasons is a decent starting point when judging how good a team is overall. I happen to be enjoying the football being played this season to be honest, I dont really look at where we might finish position wise, for me if we finished 14th and had more points than 52 which we got last season I would see that as better improvement than finishing 6th or 7th with 48 points, just me tho. There is no problem with you putting all your eggs in the FSG basket regarding the funds you think they will give us in January, I for one are pretty certain they wont give us what many fans on here think they are going to give us, my theory is they want to put as little in whilst taking maximum out, so although I think there might be a few quid I dont think it will be what people expect, I dont have confidence in FSG sorry... Confidence to do what? Give the team 40 million a season? They never said they would do that.
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we are a long way off fourth. the 1st half displays against chelsea and wigan were the worst so far from BR. if not for a bad wigan mistake that was another 0-0 frustration.
i don't like this 3 centre back formation he is going for, its pretty boring. if not for suarez we would be in an awful state A 3-0 win is boring? I also don't understand how 1 mistake causes 3 goals. This is Rodgers' style: death by football. We passed them to death, and we scored 3 goals.
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we are a long way off fourth. the 1st half displays against chelsea and wigan were the worst so far from BR. if not for a bad wigan mistake that was another 0-0 frustration.
i don't like this 3 centre back formation he is going for, its pretty boring. if not for suarez we would be in an awful state A 3-0 win is boring? I also don't understand how 1 mistake causes 3 goals. This is Rodgers' style: death by football. We passed them to death, and we scored 3 goals. no it wasn't boring after the first one went in but if it had not then would the others have followed?a mistake helped us avoid another prob toothless display. the first half was extremly boring, worst we have played under BR. i like BR ,but just seems a bit all over the place atm.tinkering to get more players in the box. don't think he needs 3 at the back to do it myself
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Joe based on the immediate past (2 years) then no we have no chance of fourth. But things could change the team could become better than the sum of the parts (when was the last time we saw that?) and new signings in January could contribute. Our rivals could have an indifferent season and we could (with luck) pip them to fourth place. Likely no possible yes. And where its possible we (as fans) should strive for it. In that case, there's no reason why southampton or QPR shouldn't be aiming to win the league this year. Mathematically, they can do it!
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we are a long way off fourth. the 1st half displays against chelsea and wigan were the worst so far from BR. if not for a bad wigan mistake that was another 0-0 frustration.
i don't like this 3 centre back formation he is going for, its pretty boring. if not for suarez we would be in an awful state A 3-0 win is boring? I also don't understand how 1 mistake causes 3 goals. This is Rodgers' style: death by football. We passed them to death, and we scored 3 goals. no it wasn't boring after the first one went in but if it had not then would the others have followed?a mistake helped us avoid another prob toothless display. the first half was extremly boring, worst we have played under BR. i like BR ,but just seems a bit all over the place atm.tinkering to get more players in the box. don't think he needs 3 at the back to do it myself I'm sorry, saying we barely avoided a 0-0 draw is silly when we won by 3. Playing what if won't prove anything. Maybe they would have come anyway, maybe not. No one can now, because the mistake happened. Whether or not that's true, we scored 2 goals independent of that mistake. Besides, mistakes are not enough. Sterling capitalized, and we put away our chances, and Suarez is becoming clinical. And what's wrong with tinkering when it gets you 3 goals and a win? I don't understand the griping.
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we are a long way off fourth. the 1st half displays against chelsea and wigan were the worst so far from BR. if not for a bad wigan mistake that was another 0-0 frustration.
i don't like this 3 centre back formation he is going for, its pretty boring. if not for suarez we would be in an awful state A 3-0 win is boring? I also don't understand how 1 mistake causes 3 goals. This is Rodgers' style: death by football. We passed them to death, and we scored 3 goals. Whilst I agree with you completely that 2nd half we played well not much to complain about. Wigan actually had more possession in both halves of the game and made more passes in the 2nd half, it wasn't our death by football or relentless passing that killed them, it was quick and incisive stuff. Exactly what we've been missing thus far (and in the first half).
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If you're the sort of glass half full type, then you can see we've made promising progress this year. We're 8 points off fourth, Everton game should of left us with 6 points to the mark, Man U game with the harsh sending off and us dominating arguable could have been another 3 points. Man City game Skertl gifting Tevez the equalizer. But that is a rather optimistic way of looking at it..
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If you're the sort of glass half full type, then you can see we've made promising progress this year. We're 8 points off fourth, Everton game should of left us with 6 points to the mark, Man U game with the harsh sending off and us dominating arguable could have been another 3 points. Man City game Skertl gifting Tevez the equalizer. But that is a rather optimistic way of looking at it.. It's a very optimistic way of looking at it. That's a lot of ifs and buts. I'm sure there were other instances (or there will be) where we'll be lucky to get more than we deserve, but these are exactly the fine lines that I've been talking about. Had those games gone our way we'd be just 1 point off 4th. Personally, I think things are looking up, and for the most part, the team look like they're growing in confidence with every game.
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If you're the sort of glass half full type, then you can see we've made promising progress this year. We're 8 points off fourth, Everton game should of left us with 6 points to the mark, Man U game with the harsh sending off and us dominating arguable could have been another 3 points. Man City game Skertl gifting Tevez the equalizer. But that is a rather optimistic way of looking at it.. It's a very optimistic way of looking at it. That's a lot of ifs and buts. I'm sure there were other instances (or there will be) where we'll be lucky to get more than we deserve, but these are exactly the fine lines that I've been talking about. Had those games gone our way we'd be just 1 point off 4th. Personally, I think things are looking up, and for the most part, the team look like they're growing in confidence with every game. I find myself agreeing with you a lot recently bar! I always think it has been fine lines with us, but its been the same fine line for 3 years now which represents a pattern for me. Things have definitely looked up for me, we have a bit of excitement aain which we haven't had since kenny was interim manager. But the only danger is, like I said, I find myself saying the same stuff right now as I did under Kenny and Rafa's last season, always close, if this that and the other went our way and not their's we would be top 4 etc so I try not to do it anymore. But yes, things are looking up, but still a longgg way to go. We have seen how much money it has cost teams to bridge gaps from 6th to 5th to 4th.
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