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Robert Martinez says Wigan can finish top ten, Arsene Wenger says the League title is still there for Arsenal and Phil Neville says Everton can finish top four all with this never give up till its over attituded but realisticaly all doomed to failure, its called talking a good game or telling the fans what they want to hear, our Owners when they came to the Club did the same thing regarding a new stadium along with Hicks and Gillette before them....

I think Joe we would not have won half the trophies in the past had we accepted our fate. 2006 cup final lost, half time istanbul no chance, newcastle 4-3 we are beat forget it! and how many one nils in last minute over the years and especially the great liverpool sides as utd do now?

we are a long way off fourth. the 1st half displays against chelsea and wigan were the worst so far from BR. if not for a bad wigan mistake that was another 0-0 frustration.
i don't like this 3 centre back formation he is going for, its pretty boring. if not for suarez we would be in an awful state

I understand your point, but you've made one bad analogy, you are lying about our owners doing 'the same thing regarding a new stadium along with hicks and gillette before them'. That simply and factually didn't happen. They were very careful with what they said, they made no promises about dates nor haste, they haven't failed to deliver on that at all.

If united didn't have RVP, they would be struggling too. The fact is we do have Suarez. It was pointed out in earlier threads possibly by KingoftheKop that we come good in the 2nd half because of our high possession game. The 2nd half had only begun against Wigan and yes it was a bad mistake but that doesn't mean that we wouldn't have scored at a different time during the game.

I do agree with you about the 3 at the back, especially against weaker teams at home where we should be a bit more aggressive but am glad we got the result which we haven't managed against Wigan in 5 previous games

Listen stanley you seem an inteligent experienced man even you know there is a difference between coming back in one off cup games and in a whole league campagn over 38 games, I am not saying its impossible but in a one off game you always have a chance to turn it around. I think you could see we were'nt going to win the League after 3 or 4 games in and I think you can clearly see we are not good enough to finish top four after 10 games in, not with just 3 wins in 12 games, you need better than that am afraid, its only about 8 wins since last December nearly 12 months ago so this is no rough patch or blip we are on, its a gradual slide which for me has'nt halted yet. I think fans are getting ahead of themselves because we beat the mighty Wigan at home which is fine but you know as well as I do if we fail to get six points out of Swansea and Spurs then that hope will soon evaporate into what is now the normal, standard Liverpool we now know.

if utd didn't have rvp they would still be 1st or 2nd. didn't have him last year did they. the commentary on the wigan game says we haven't scored in the final 15minutes of any game so far. i think performances have dropped recently,seems like BR is still tinkering but i don't think 3 at the back is the future ,nor do i think jose is the new bale

Why do you think performances have dropped? I thought we were excellent against Newcastle and controlled that game. Against Chelsea, we were poor in the 1st half but showed character and fight to work our way into the game and could have snatched a win with Enrique's shot. We beat Wigan 3-0? I fail to see the drop in performance

Joe based on the immediate past (2 years) then no we have no chance of fourth. But things could change the team could become better than the sum of the parts (when was the last time we saw that?) and new signings in January could contribute. Our rivals could have an indifferent season and we could (with luck) pip them to fourth place. Likely no possible yes. And where its possible we (as fans) should strive for it.

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