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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
For not bowing to public demand and standing firm on the signings of Sigurdsson and dempsey who went to spurs instead.

ABOUT TIME WE HAD OWNERS WHO CANNOT BE TAKEN THE P*SS OUT OF

Dalglish wasted our money, now BR will invest wisely.

The future is bright.

CAN ANY FAN NOW HONESTLY SAY, FSG WERE WRONG NOT TO BRING IN DEMPSEY?


Even if he has scored I think once, not sure Dempsey has been great for Spurs so far and as he hasn't even been fully/regularly utilised, it's difficult to say (may be it would have been different with LFC, we'll never know). However, if you have appointed a manager, you need to trust him (within a set framework of course). I must admit I don't understand what really happenned in the summer transfer window, had BR exceeded his limit? did he know that when AC was sent on loan? Was it the owners or the MD that did not deliver on their promise? At least things should not end up in a mess as it looked when the window slammed shut.

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I am not for once a boo boy, but rather a lost boy out in wilderness for the last 20 years.

I support BR and his style and know that we are WIP and that in time he will build a force to reckon with.

BUT, when we continue to feckup with players (eg. AC out on loan with no replacement) then I throw all my toys out the cot. My patience is beyond thin right now.


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I think the main problem last summer was the need for balancing the books.

Our wage bill was excessive to our position and had to be cut.

Out went;

Aurelio
Bellamy
Kuyt
Rodriguez

We took a loss on Aquilani and Adam
Carroll and Spearing where loaned out


Maybe at this point with the arrivals we had a balance and any more incomings required outgoings.


We still have players of little use;

Carroll
Spearing (bolton have no money)
Downing
Cole
Henderson

Carroll will be sold in the summer but I think we will still be at a loss even factoring in the net book value. I believe we would want £12 - £14m but I can see newcastle offering £8-£10m. This means that we wont technically have anything to spend from the sale.
Likewise Downing is likely to be sold at a book loss.
Cole will likely be sold in similar fashion as Aquilani, were we would subsidise a percentage of his wages.
Henderson will likely be asked to do a season long loan.


Our best bet is to try to achieve what Newcastle did, by purchasing players who fit the team and are undervalued elsewhere. Unfortunately our current buys in Assaidi and Borini shows little sign of changing the script, so I can fear the squad being increased with similar players.

e.g. Who are these? Romain Amalfitano & Vurnon Anita

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Originally Posted By: Brian
I am not for once a boo boy, but rather a lost boy out in wilderness for the last 20 years.

I support BR and his style and know that we are WIP and that in time he will build a force to reckon with.

BUT, when we continue to feckup with players (eg. AC out on loan with no replacement) then I throw all my toys out the cot. My patience is beyond thin right now.



I fully agree with that.

I'm patient. But if you're stupid. I'll let u know.

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Originally Posted By: kane3
Originally Posted By: heggypompom
For not bowing to public demand and standing firm on the signings of Sigurdsson and dempsey who went to spurs instead.

ABOUT TIME WE HAD OWNERS WHO CANNOT BE TAKEN THE P*SS OUT OF

Dalglish wasted our money, now BR will invest wisely.

The future is bright.

CAN ANY FAN NOW HONESTLY SAY, FSG WERE WRONG NOT TO BRING IN DEMPSEY?


Correct! what a find Borini was,no wonder we had to fight off..er erm no-one to get him whistle even Adam has scored more goals alreadyLOL


I was going to say this. Thus far BR has most certainly not demonstrated wise investment in his time with us. In fact quite the opposite. 9 mill for borini was far too big a risk, he may come good in the future, but we needed a goal scorer to come in and support suarez, borini has never been a goal scorer.

15 mill, the bulk of our cash, on a problem we didn't have. Allen is a good player, he is part of the 'big picture' but there are many more pressing and gaping holes that needed to be plugged before that part of the 'big plan' needed to be filled. He has demonstrated POOR POOR judgement with regards to his 'big' signings thus far. Lets hope he fairs better pronto.

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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
For not bowing to public demand and standing firm on the signings of Sigurdsson and dempsey who went to spurs instead.

ABOUT TIME WE HAD OWNERS WHO CANNOT BE TAKEN THE P*SS OUT OF

Dalglish wasted our money, now BR will invest wisely.

The future is bright.

CAN ANY FAN NOW HONESTLY SAY, FSG WERE WRONG NOT TO BRING IN DEMPSEY?


Yes I can because they appointed BR to manage and that normally gives a manager the right to chose which players he wants to buy.

The owners completely shafted BR in the summer and totally undermined him before he had time to even warm the managers seat.

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You can ask, would Dempsey improve our squad? I feel the answer is yes.

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Originally Posted By: Divide et Impera
You can ask, would Dempsey improve our squad? I feel the answer is yes.

dempsey would improve our first 11

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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
For not bowing to public demand and standing firm on the signings of Sigurdsson and dempsey who went to spurs instead.

ABOUT TIME WE HAD OWNERS WHO CANNOT BE TAKEN THE P*SS OUT OF

Dalglish wasted our money, now BR will invest wisely.

The future is bright.

CAN ANY FAN NOW HONESTLY SAY, FSG WERE WRONG NOT TO BRING IN DEMPSEY?


Hindsight is a wonderful thing. However, You say BR will invest wisely, well you contradicted yourself if you think about it.

And yes, like yourself, they were wrong. Rodgers didn't agree with paying over the odds for Sigurdsson but he did want Dempsey. They blocked the manager's wishes. A telling sign.

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In hindsight yes, its easy to say it was the right decisions not to bring in dempsey or sigurdsson as not either of them has 'shined' for their new club thus far. However, Dempsey in particular has been a regular goalscorer in the PL for the last couple of seasons so I do feel that he would've added immense value to our already thin squad. Think of all the chances Jonjo has missed thus far. Dempsey as our AM would've made a big difference I think.

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