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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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BR's win ratio = 38.1% (lower than dalglish, hodgson AND souness!)
RB's win ratio = 55.5% (higher than houllier & shankly)

Goals scored and conceded can be misleading. A better analysis to look at is 'games won'.


not when the topic is rafa was a negative boring manager..which he was


Boring? I suppose you fell asleep during the second half vs Milan? Did you read a book when we were setting a champions league record for goals scored in single match vs besiktas (8-0).......and what about these:

Beating Leverkusen, Juventus and Chelsea en route to the 2005 CL Win
Knocking Barcelona & Chelsea out to reach the final again 2 years later
Beating Luton 5-3 (2006)
Beating Birmingham 7-0 (2006)
Beating Arsenal 4-1 (2007)
Beating Derby 6-0 (2007)
Beating Porto 4-1 (2007)
Knocking Arsenal and Inter out of the CL in 2008
Beating Newcastle 5-1 (2008)
Beating Real Madrid 4-0 (2008)
Beating Man Utd 4-1 (2009)
Beating Aston Villa 5-0 (2009)
Beating Hull 6-1 (2009)
Beating Benfica 4-1 (2010)




Now, it's clear that you have got some personal vendetta against Benitez, and that's your business. If you don't like him, fine.....but to claim that it has anything to do with his abilities or to try and put it down to his boring low-scoring teams is just horsesh!t.



that game was pure destruction won't see that for a long while.

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Was that Luton game the one where Xabi scored from his own half? That was a great game to watch

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He scored from 40 yards and then again from about 70 yards in the same match! "Boring" stuff eh?

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Very boring grin

Putting Gerrard behind Torres was also a very boring tactic. We can all pick and choose tactical errors and transfer mistakes but it really baffles that there is a cult of anti-Rafa whistle

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Originally Posted By: Divide et Impera
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sorry there is no evidence to claim an average is not a fact..its is in fact nothing but a fact


So you're standing by your fact of us scoring 24 goals a season with rafa?

Yeah I think what's happened here is he got the goals scored ratio mixed up with the goals conceded ratio..


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Very boring grin

Putting Gerrard behind Torres was also a very boring tactic. We can all pick and choose tactical errors and transfer mistakes but it really baffles that there is a cult of anti-Rafa whistle


as long as there is a cult of rafa there has to be an anti cult. man is a disaster whose ego destroyed us and now makes it impossible for him to leave us alone.

and he fell into that gerrard role , hadn't a clue where to put him for years. rafa's tactics pulled down his own achievements of being able to lure great players here..so along with the alonso's and torres's he brought dross and then played dross and hope gerrard ,alonso and torres got him out of jail. if not for stevie he would have been sacked in his first season..it was pathetic(bar the miracle of stevie G saving his ass again and again in europe)..he stopped us winning the league in his second last season. if not for him we would have been champs easily.

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Originally Posted By: EMP
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Very boring grin

Putting Gerrard behind Torres was also a very boring tactic. We can all pick and choose tactical errors and transfer mistakes but it really baffles that there is a cult of anti-Rafa whistle


as long as there is a cult of rafa there has to be an anti cult. man is a disaster whose ego destroyed us and now makes it impossible for him to leave us alone.

and he fell into that gerrard role , hadn't a clue where to put him for years. rafa's tactics pulled down his own achievements of being able to lure great players here..so along with the alonso's and torres's he brought dross and then played dross and hope gerrard ,alonso and torres got him out of jail. if not for stevie he would have been sacked in his first season..it was pathetic(bar the miracle of stevie G saving his ass again and again in europe)..he stopped us winning the league in his second last season. if not for him we would have been champs easily.


That was the closest we have ever got to winning the premier league and you're angry at him?!? You must have a hit out on houllier, dalglish, souness & hodgson then!
If you can't appreciate the best manager we've had in this generation then something else is wrong - his record of achievement speaks for itself. What's the real issue here? did he refuse you an autograph?

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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Very boring grin

Putting Gerrard behind Torres was also a very boring tactic. We can all pick and choose tactical errors and transfer mistakes but it really baffles that there is a cult of anti-Rafa whistle


as long as there is a cult of rafa there has to be an anti cult. man is a disaster whose ego destroyed us and now makes it impossible for him to leave us alone.

and he fell into that gerrard role , hadn't a clue where to put him for years. rafa's tactics pulled down his own achievements of being able to lure great players here..so along with the alonso's and torres's he brought dross and then played dross and hope gerrard ,alonso and torres got him out of jail. if not for stevie he would have been sacked in his first season..it was pathetic(bar the miracle of stevie G saving his ass again and again in europe)..he stopped us winning the league in his second last season. if not for him we would have been champs easily.


That was the closest we have ever got to winning the premier league and you're angry at him?!? You must have a hit out on houllier, dalglish, souness & hodgson then!
If you can't appreciate the best manager we've had in this generation then something else is wrong - his record of achievement speaks for itself. What's the real issue here? did he refuse you an autograph?

I just don't get it. I really really don't get it.


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Originally Posted By: EMP
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Very boring grin

Putting Gerrard behind Torres was also a very boring tactic. We can all pick and choose tactical errors and transfer mistakes but it really baffles that there is a cult of anti-Rafa whistle


as long as there is a cult of rafa there has to be an anti cult. man is a disaster whose ego destroyed us and now makes it impossible for him to leave us alone.

and he fell into that gerrard role , hadn't a clue where to put him for years. rafa's tactics pulled down his own achievements of being able to lure great players here..so along with the alonso's and torres's he brought dross and then played dross and hope gerrard ,alonso and torres got him out of jail. if not for stevie he would have been sacked in his first season..it was pathetic(bar the miracle of stevie G saving his ass again and again in europe)..he stopped us winning the league in his second last season. if not for him we would have been champs easily.


Gerrard also played very well on the right wing and Benitez was man enough to stand up to him when Gerrard felt he should be a centre mid when Benitez felt his positioning discipline wasn't good.

There is no cult of Rafa, it is only put forward by people with an obsession of the man who resent him. There are people who respect what Rafa did for the club and the success he brought it and the great players he brought in and then there are others who are blinded by his last season or a few transfer mistakes and think it sums up his entire tenure here.

Your arguments are bordering on the ridiculous saying that he needed to be rescued by Gerrard, Torres and Alonso? Most teams have 1 or 2 main players who provide the bulk of the attacking flair. United had it with Ronaldo, Arsenal with RVP, us now with Suarez. Benitez focused his tactics on getting the best out of them which he did pretty well. Torres was the fastest player to reach 50 goals was he not? He hasn't done too well since Benitez left though has he?

"If not for Stevie..." We will never know will we but he got a team with the likes of Traore, Biscan, Nunez, Josemi a Champions League so there was more than Stevie involved.

Truly ridiculous anyone who can look back at his time here and think he was a failure or his tenure was the start of the rot etc.

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come off it, his last season was rotten to the core..hicks didn't make him play that way. it was a culmination of negative tactics, out of control ego and losing the plot big time.

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