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sacked or about to be sacked from top jobs cause they are idiots..only proper managers can manage top clubs..fools that employ zonal get found out and get sacked...ie.mancini,rafa and scolari
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no its not ..the counter arguement is idiotic. it doesn't work and that has been proved time and time again,especially in england..scolari,rafa and now mancini all found out over it..there is a good way and there is a wrong way.zonal is wrong and thus if employed - idiotic.
- Liverpool set a new club record of 11 consecutive clean sheets (Oct-Dec 2005).
- Pepe Reina kept more clean sheets in his first 50 league games (28) than any other goalkeeper in the club’s history.
- Pepe Reina kept his 50th league clean sheet in his 92nd appearance – breaking club record of 95 held by Ray Clemence.
- Pepe Reina kept his 100th clean sheet in the fastest time in Liverpool history (197 games).
- Pepe Reina set a new club record of most clean sheets (79) in first 150 league games.
All the above records were set during Rafa's reign when this majorly flawed zonal marking system was in place.
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no its not ..the counter arguement is idiotic. it doesn't work and that has been proved time and time again,especially in england..scolari,rafa and now mancini all found out over it..there is a good way and there is a wrong way.zonal is wrong and thus if employed - idiotic.
- Liverpool set a new club record of 11 consecutive clean sheets (Oct-Dec 2005).
- Pepe Reina kept more clean sheets in his first 50 league games (28) than any other goalkeeper in the club’s history.
- Pepe Reina kept his 50th league clean sheet in his 92nd appearance – breaking club record of 95 held by Ray Clemence.
- Pepe Reina kept his 100th clean sheet in the fastest time in Liverpool history (197 games).
- Pepe Reina set a new club record of most clean sheets (79) in first 150 league games.
All the above records were set during Rafa's reign when this majorly flawed zonal marking system was in place. 
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no its not ..the counter arguement is idiotic. it doesn't work and that has been proved time and time again,especially in england..scolari,rafa and now mancini all found out over it..there is a good way and there is a wrong way.zonal is wrong and thus if employed - idiotic.
- Liverpool set a new club record of 11 consecutive clean sheets (Oct-Dec 2005).
- Pepe Reina kept more clean sheets in his first 50 league games (28) than any other goalkeeper in the club’s history.
- Pepe Reina kept his 50th league clean sheet in his 92nd appearance – breaking club record of 95 held by Ray Clemence.
- Pepe Reina kept his 100th clean sheet in the fastest time in Liverpool history (197 games).
- Pepe Reina set a new club record of most clean sheets (79) in first 150 league games.
All the above records were set during Rafa's reign when this majorly flawed zonal marking system was in place. Facts me arse
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no its not ..the counter arguement is idiotic. it doesn't work and that has been proved time and time again,especially in england..scolari,rafa and now mancini all found out over it..there is a good way and there is a wrong way.zonal is wrong and thus if employed - idiotic.
- Liverpool set a new club record of 11 consecutive clean sheets (Oct-Dec 2005).
- Pepe Reina kept more clean sheets in his first 50 league games (28) than any other goalkeeper in the club’s history.
- Pepe Reina kept his 50th league clean sheet in his 92nd appearance – breaking club record of 95 held by Ray Clemence.
- Pepe Reina kept his 100th clean sheet in the fastest time in Liverpool history (197 games).
- Pepe Reina set a new club record of most clean sheets (79) in first 150 league games.
All the above records were set during Rafa's reign when this majorly flawed zonal marking system was in place. +1 wanted to reply that myself just too lazy to dig it up!
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zonal is a joke ,always has been.
i don't mind sticking a crouch type near the front post,but everyone else should be marking a player or else a post.that way u can blame a player when u concede...like agger yesterday. thank god we don't use zonal. once you have conceeded blame is of no relevance, you have conceeded. Pundits like it as they can pick fault but modern managers feel it is counter productive. Both systems rely on good discipline. strangely enough it is easier to play against man to man as good team movement will drag players away leaving a space for a player to attack(sunday for example). Zonal would have prevented that, conversely zonal allows an opposition to get a leap but it should be restricted as the space will not be there for a run them leap. the zonal system requires more discipline for sure but has been proven overall to be more effective.
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no its not ..the counter arguement is idiotic. it doesn't work and that has been proved time and time again,especially in england..scolari,rafa and now mancini all found out over it..there is a good way and there is a wrong way.zonal is wrong and thus if employed - idiotic.
- Liverpool set a new club record of 11 consecutive clean sheets (Oct-Dec 2005).
- Pepe Reina kept more clean sheets in his first 50 league games (28) than any other goalkeeper in the club’s history.
- Pepe Reina kept his 50th league clean sheet in his 92nd appearance – breaking club record of 95 held by Ray Clemence.
- Pepe Reina kept his 100th clean sheet in the fastest time in Liverpool history (197 games).
- Pepe Reina set a new club record of most clean sheets (79) in first 150 league games.
All the above records were set during Rafa's reign when this majorly flawed zonal marking system was in place. and not one fact about zonal marking..the fact is rafa came in to a club that was lucky to have one the best ever centre half's here already in hyppia..added to that rafa played negative football and still I remember most goals we conceded were from set pieces. man utd,chelsea,arsenal and others used to regularly score from wide free kicks or corners.. and when hyppia got too old then the idiotic zonal system was really exposed and we started losing a goal a game to it.
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A goal a game?? And out of where did you just grasp that fact? love the hyperbole to try and defend your point.
The main point that everyone else seems to have grasped is that both systems have pros and cons
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A goal a game?? And out of where did you just grasp that fact? love the hyperbole to try and defend your point.
The main point that everyone else seems to have grasped is that both systems have pros and cons very true. the point we are missing though is the type of corner being taken. Arsenal under Graham used to play into smith front post and then Adams, Bold and others would pile into the box and put it in. virtually undefendable and I believe that year they scored more frokm set pieces than any other team had done in the past.
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no its not ..the counter arguement is idiotic. it doesn't work and that has been proved time and time again,especially in england..scolari,rafa and now mancini all found out over it..there is a good way and there is a wrong way.zonal is wrong and thus if employed - idiotic.
- Liverpool set a new club record of 11 consecutive clean sheets (Oct-Dec 2005).
- Pepe Reina kept more clean sheets in his first 50 league games (28) than any other goalkeeper in the club’s history.
- Pepe Reina kept his 50th league clean sheet in his 92nd appearance – breaking club record of 95 held by Ray Clemence.
- Pepe Reina kept his 100th clean sheet in the fastest time in Liverpool history (197 games).
- Pepe Reina set a new club record of most clean sheets (79) in first 150 league games.
All the above records were set during Rafa's reign when this majorly flawed zonal marking system was in place. and not one fact about zonal marking..the fact is rafa came in to a club that was lucky to have one the best ever centre half's here already in hyppia..added to that rafa played negative football and still I remember most goals we conceded were from set pieces. man utd,chelsea,arsenal and others used to regularly score from wide free kicks or corners.. and when hyppia got too old then the idiotic zonal system was really exposed and we started losing a goal a game to it. I'm a tad lost with this one. Are you saying Sami's age had a major impact on his ability to stand in a 3 yard space and header a ball away?
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