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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
well yes maybe not good enough , once again played well enough but how can he keep putting trust in these players like downing , henderson and joe cole and even carragher is beyond me , in the uefa cup seemed to have got away with with young boys beating udinese twice but i dont know why these players get game time .
the way I look at it is this, if my job is on the line or am under pressure then I would only play the players I trusted and believed in because I know they would'nt let me down and they would be the ones if any who could secure my job and give me a bit of time and breathing space. These players may get tired towards the end of the season but if we keep on getting bad results and getting bounced out of Cup competitions like the Swansea game then my ar*e wont be around anyway come the end of the season when those players do need resting if thats the case, you worry about tiredness and burnout when the time comes if it ever does, not before. Theres no way I would leave my managerial future in the hands of Downing, Cole and Henderson's of this world. no way, I would play my strongest team as I can rely on them more and worry later.

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Two sides to every coin I suppose.

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I think he is playing with fire because with every defeat the morale just sinks lower and the fans get fed up

A win is a win and can help in so many ways

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I think he is playing with fire because with every defeat the morale just sinks lower and the fans get fed up

A win is a win and can help in so many ways
and thats why you play your best team because thats the team which will give you your best chance of a victory which in turn will keep the pressure off you and give you breathing space in order to stabilise things. Lets look ahead a little bit and look at this scenario which if we are all realistic could well be the case, say we get to January we could be about 10th in the League and bounced out of both Europe and the Capital One Cup, we might get a draw away at Spurs or United again in the F.A.Cup straight away there is a serious chance our season could be over in the first week of January, I know we are talking hypatheticaly but its not out of the question, it could easily happn. My point is if Rogers had played his best team and strongest line up in those cups we could be going into the new year maybe about 10th in the league but in the quarter or semi's of the Capital One Cup and in the knock outs of the Europa League with maybe two games comoing up against Inter Milan or someone where the whole mood of the fans is different as we are all looking forward to the ties and also and more importantly Rogers is'nt under as much pressure, we would also hopefuly have one or two players in the transfer window to hopefuly help the cause. Unfortunately by playing these weak teams he has given himself no room for error now and the pressure is building...

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Out of the last two group games, we realistically need 1 win. It is far more realistic to think that we will still be in Europe after Christmas. The odds are also against us getting a premier league team let alone one of the top 5 in the FA cup.

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Joe, you are missing the point (and the D in Rodgers name). Our squad is too thin to be playing our strongest team for every match, Brendan has stated the priority is the EPL so he will try to rotate the squad to perform best for this. If we play our best starting XI every game fatigue will set in and injury will become more likely, if we lost Suarez to that we would (in my opinion) be facing relegation.

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
well yes maybe not good enough , once again played well enough but how can he keep putting trust in these players like downing , henderson and joe cole and even carragher is beyond me , in the uefa cup seemed to have got away with with young boys beating udinese twice but i dont know why these players get game time .
the way I look at it is this, if my job is on the line or am under pressure then I would only play the players I trusted and believed in because I know they would'nt let me down and they would be the ones if any who could secure my job and give me a bit of time and breathing space. These players may get tired towards the end of the season but if we keep on getting bad results and getting bounced out of Cup competitions like the Swansea game then my ar*e wont be around anyway come the end of the season when those players do need resting if thats the case, you worry about tiredness and burnout when the time comes if it ever does, not before. Theres no way I would leave my managerial future in the hands of Downing, Cole and Henderson's of this world. no way, I would play my strongest team as I can rely on them more and worry later.


Joe, he is not going to lose his job because of not winning the cups, why is it so hard for you to understand this? FSG doesn't give a [oops] about trophies, they want top 4 or at least progress towards top 4. So BR is putting all his eggs in the same basket, ie, the league. Whether FSG are right or not is another matter, i was very happy when at last we won something last year, but then, not everybody has the same priorities. Not to say that I want us to win a trophy at the expense of getting relegated.

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But I can see no eveidence that by playing weakened sides in these 2 competitions are league form is good. Basically we are poor in every competition we are playing in. We are sitting in 11th position.

I believe that Brendan will be gone end of season as we will finish roughly where we are now. If he thinks that by playing reserves last night we have a chance against Chelsea then he is dilusional

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If we have no chance of beating Chelsea, then we belong in 11th place and therefore BR will be safe?

All you have done is make contradicting points here. We have a chance against Chelsea which was improved by resting the majority of the team who will play on Sunday against a team which played on Wednesday night.

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But I can see no eveidence that by playing weakened sides in these 2 competitions are league form is good. Basically we are poor in every competition we are playing in. We are sitting in 11th position.

I believe that Brendan will be gone end of season as we will finish roughly where we are now. If he thinks that by playing reserves last night we have a chance against Chelsea then he is dilusional


Yes, sack another manager after one season, thats the way to go. He cannot be judged on the team he has inherited, only when he has been given time to form his own squad would it be fair. If you thought that he'd turn around our squad without backing from FSG then you were mistaken. If we continue to just sack managers surely it will deter other managers of quality coming in as they'll see us as wanting miracles without financial backing which just wont happen! As long as we see improvements from last season and that we are heading in the right direction then we (the fans) should be happy.

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