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i think shelvey was tacitly citicised by BR
Wisdom needs a pause

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Bar - ignore the spineless self-pity set - they are not worth your energy.


not very nice kop! variety of opininions make up the forum

we can't all be swashbuckling internet heros like yourself!

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what im about to suggest is something i know won't be anything like what we play on sunday, but i think it's time for a bit of a change.

Reina (if fit)

Wisdom Coates Skrtel Enrique/Johnson (if fit)

Hendo Agger Allen

Gerrard Saurez Sterling

Thinking behind this team; we need to be more defensive and have more energy in midfield, things neither gerrard and sahin are willing or capable of giving us. agger playing DM shouldn't be too hard for him. gerrard playing in the front 3 in theory would make us more dynamic.


I don't like the 4-3-3 formation as I think it makes us vulnerable defensively as we do not have the players who can regain possession in front quickly enough and our centre halves are not quick enough. I prefer a 4-4-2 or even a 5-3-2 line up with Suarez and Sterling our 2 forwards. A midfield of Allen, Jonjo, Hendo and Gerrard and a backline of Johnson/Wisdom, Agger, Skrtl, Enrique/Robinson would do for me.

Yes I think your analysis is spot on there Vish, but I wouldn't agree with your solution, I think a return to the hoof formation is not the answer, we must find it within the Rodgers system and that means finding players who can play the system. FSG will just have to bite the bullet and give BR the funds to build a team that can take us back to the top, else we're going nowhere and that is unacceptable to me as a fan of this club.


4-4-2 doesn't mean hoofing Annefield, I think with Allen and Hendo's energy our defence will be better protected and both Gerrard and Shelvey will help in controlling the midfield. In Suarez and Sterling upfront there won't be any target-man to hoof to. Last Sunday we changed to a 5-3-2 / 3-5-2 formation and I don't think we hoofed, except Jones who is not too comfortable with his feet.

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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
4-4-2 doesn't mean hoofing Annefield, I think with Allen and Hendo's energy our defence will be better protected and both Gerrard and Shelvey will help in controlling the midfield. In Suarez and Sterling upfront there won't be any target-man to hoof to.


Really?

Why don't we just put our big pony tailed donkey on instead of one of those 2 then? whistle laugh

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we didn't hoof even when we went to a 5-3-2 or a 3-5-2 because the possession game depends on having 3 in the middle so that there is always an outlet which doesn't always happen when there's only 2 in there.

I know we disagree on many things about BR but I think that the modern game is changing and we need to have a midfield 3 capable of holding onto possession regardless of who the manager is.

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
we didn't hoof even when we went to a 5-3-2 or a 3-5-2 because the possession game depends on having 3 in the middle so that there is always an outlet which doesn't always happen when there's only 2 in there.

I know we disagree on many things about BR but I think that the modern game is changing and we need to have a midfield 3 capable of holding onto possession regardless of who the manager is.


Don't know about that actually! If you want to play offensive attacking football you have to use an offensive formation. Putting 5 in the midfield means compromizing either your back 4 or 2-3 men upfront. Can this really be good for you goal scoring tally and/or goal chance creation? Have a look at this article and see what you think!

"On the subject of the scalene triangles, let me put it this way. If you arrange three players in the isoceles triangle you mentioned for example, the players can easily pass the ball but so too can an intercepting opponent. Hence to quash these holding triangles forming in midfield you have seen more and more clubs loading the midfield with 5 or more players to overwhelm the opposition's triangle numbers. So if you have 5 midfielders and they form a triangle that leaves two players short of a partner and almost lost to an attacking move. To solve this problem Barcelona play in elongated scalene triangles along the left and right touchline using the left back and right back as the anchors so they are able to participate but still defend. The central midfield is actually where finishing comes from via Iniesta and Messi so very little holding play is actually in the thick of the opposing midfield. Thus 5 midfielders are easily nullified because if three or four move to the left to intercept the ball on the left scalene triangle, they leave the right triangle unmarked with possibly only one or two players to cover. If the ball is switched left to right with a long ball, you get punished. That is how Barcelona dismantled Man Utd in the CL final 2011 with very little effort. The trick is to teach defenders, midfielders and one striker to play successfully in only one third the width of the pitch for the length of the field. The only way is with a scalene formation".

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what about rhombus?

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
we didn't hoof even when we went to a 5-3-2 or a 3-5-2 because the possession game depends on having 3 in the middle so that there is always an outlet which doesn't always happen when there's only 2 in there.

I know we disagree on many things about BR but I think that the modern game is changing and we need to have a midfield 3 capable of holding onto possession regardless of who the manager is.


I prefer 5-3-2 which changes to 3-5-2 quickly. You don't have a lot of teams playing 4-3-3 especially when the 3 forwards cannot gain possession and the left and right forwards are not good at defending (Sterling, Suso, Borini before that).

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Originally Posted By: Toothy
what about rhombus?


Cubes or circles?

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