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#273302 07/10/12 04:46 PM
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Well after today I think we can safely say the honeymoon period for Brendan Rogers is well and truly over, it's time for him to start earning his corn. I want to say before anything else I was happy with this managers appointment, still am and I am fully behind him and most definately dont want him sacked.

Just a few points I feel he has failed at since he has been here, firstly I dont think he should of allowed Andy Carroll to leave unless a replacement was already in place, if the owners made the decision then he should of stood up to them and showed some backbone, today we were crying out for a plan B and although not good enough Carroll would of been better than what we had to come off the bench. I also feel Rogers was far to hasty in getting shut of two of the best scorers we had on our books in Kuyt and Bellamy, we were also crying out for Bellamy today and he would also of made a difference with those surges into the box. The fundemental rules of footballing management is that you dont let a player leave unless you have at least the same calibre if not better coming in, and with Kuyt, Bellamy and Carroll this is not the case.

The other point I want to make is this, it is clear now after today, October was the month the top four place disapeared, the gap is now too big to breach for a Club like ours with the management, team and squad we have, we will finish between 7th and 12th this season, this for me is nailed on, even Everton who we were neck and neck with last season look well ahead of us. I think with this in mind we have to look at what we can do to salvage the season and for me it has to be some sort of cup glory if it's at all possible and for that to happen we need the manager to abandon this taking cups lightly attitude and start to field his best eleven players and stop worrying about who we play in the League at the weekend. We have now played weakend teams against Hearts, West Brom and now Udinese and not won a single game that same weekend so it's clear for all to see it has no benefit and we might as well field the full team. I did think today would be a draw if i am honest, Stoke played exactly the way I expected, there is absolutely nothing between us and Stoke and come the end of the season I fully expect Stoke to be somewhere around us League position wise.

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don't care any more .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
don't care any more .
it was only a draw, we never got beat and we kept a clean sheet, surely thats something to grabb hold of, maybe after today people will realise Rogers has an enormous job on his hands even just to steady the ship. I think this summs up how foolish some people on here were when they talked about us challenging for fourth place, fourth was never in a million years on.

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Fourth place is still on


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Fourth place is still on
what from bottom, am talking about Champions League place wise stanley.

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By my calculations we will get fourth spot over Aresnal


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No way on Earth we are going to finish top half. As things stand with our complete lack of goal threat I'll be happy if we to get to 41 points.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
By my calculations we will get fourth spot over Aresnal


Care to share which mathematics school you went to?

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Rogers is very unlucky, he has lost lucas we have no ball winner and SG has more bad games than good. A defensive ball winner is needed even if he doesnt use them all the time. Today stoke could have been mauled they didnt play particularly well even by their own standards which aren't very high.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
By my calculations we will get fourth spot over Aresnal
stanley, I know you have the Club's best interests at heart but there is no way, we carry no goal threat whatsoever and we cant change that until January at the earliest, where do you honestly think we will be by then as regards behind fourth place, Arsenal are going from strenghth to strenghth and they look an allround better team both in defence and scoring goals since RVP left.

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