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whats interesting is, this is not about convincing others we are a mediocre club, this is you insisting that we remain a mediocre club into the future. not challenging for the league, focusing on europa league etc etc. its defeatist nonsense.

no stanley it's being realistic, us as a club no matter how much denial you seem to be in is now a mid table medoicre Club, we have drifted far to long and have now fell away from the top table of english football both on and off the pitch and financialy, the not having money for Dempsey proved this. Now because of this we have to look at what we can achieve as a football club, the priorities are no longer the same as they where in the 70's and 80s like you seem to think just like Everton and Spurs dont deal in those targets also. The best we can hope for now is top 8 finishes and domestic cups with kind draws this is all we are as a football Club now even though you and I and millions of fans dont like it, unfortunately thats the way it is. If us sacrifycing finishing in say 7th place in exchange for finishing say 10th and it means winning the Europa League or F.A.Cup then am sorry I would snatch your hand off for that because I want a bit of glory and a good day out, what else do we have to look forward to otherwise.

The owners santioned a £15 million move for Sturridge on the same day as the Dempsey transfer fell through so there was money available. If you are going to constantly attack the club, at least occasionally get your facts right.

unfortunately the money dictates we will remain a mediocre Club, we all know where the bar is regarding the big Clubs, what they spend on a player and the owners or stadiums they have and until we at least match them we will always be where we are mid table mediocrity. What you have to realise is this has not suddenly happend to us, this has been a gradual slide for years, we have drifted and our last 3 season finishes of about 7th, 6th and 8th show we are a club in decline, its all the worse when you think Dalglish had the money to put it right and totaly wasted it, that was the hand up we needed to try and somehow get amongst the top 5 or 6. Unless John Henry puts his hand in his pocket and gives us a similar amount of money as what Dalglish totaly wasted then we are firmly going to be mid table, I say mid table but really since January we are firmly relegation fodder with just 5 wins since, if that was a Wolves or Blackburn with that form you would defiateley be saying that Club is going down, dont see anythin changing maybe we might do somethin in the January transfer window dont know how bad we will be by then tho, am a bit worried actualy.

I may be wrong here and it's only my opinion but you may be getting worried mixed up with delighted.

five wins this calenda year is hardly something any Liverpool fan can be delighted with, think its a cause for worry myself especialy as we cant bring anybody in until January as a short term fix to get us out of this relegation fight we are currently in.

Relegation fight?

Being over dramatic not like you ged

Four games in and we're in a relegation fight just like Arsenal were last season at the same stage! Not for one second suggesting we are as good as them but seriously!?!

At least in the last 3 fixtures at home against United, Dalglish got us to win twice and one draw. As BR is a much much better according to you + he has had 30+ millions to re-inforce (net 20+), anything but a win should then be a disaster, isn't it?

You really don't like BR do you.

Not winning would not be a disaster as this is a team currently in transition.