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Originally Posted By: flames
i was away from the forum for most of the day, this is the first time i got a proper look and it seem to me that people got caught up in the heat of the day, maybe i would have too, but coming in and seeing people who were in the "brendan rodgers cant fail parade" last week suddenly throwing themselves under buses over clint fcking dempsey is utterly absurd to me. we dont buy a 29 year old american handbag who is in the twilight of his career and all of a sudden its new owners time? fck me, clint dempsey became the most powerful man in the world over night.
its not only about dempsey. we all feel let down by the owners. they tell us we have the money to compete with anyone but it doesnt look like it. we cant even find a few million to buy a 29yr old American. we have cut at least 15m from our wage bill but still cant afford to get a striker. av lost pretty much all of my hope in fsg

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Exactly Suso...

It's not about Dempsey for me... It's the lies. The repeated Lies they have told.

For people who like to do business behind closed doors as they say it seems they like to pander to both us fans and the media and do the opposite in the real world.

They've had 2 years to get to grips with the situation but now I think about it, We have moved backwards both on and off the field.

Not to mention the whole Stadium issue still needs to be resolved.

FSG and Ian Ayre have a lot to answer for, We've shipped out around 12 / 13 players and replaced them with 4 or 5 depending if you count the yound kid who we were told is not for the first team... Another lie?

They have brought this on themselves, They should have sorted out our Striker issue, Weeks ago. Look at Fergie and United who are the bar which we should be measuring ourselves against.

United had almost all there transfers done in the first month. That's how business like this should be done...

Not missing out on our #1 target and packing up and leaving the office at 8pm.

Today (Yesterday) Was a total eye opener, I didn't realise that FSG had done the same with the RedSox recently.

Perhpas we do need new owners, Who can actually invest in the team..

Alot of people say they invested over 100million laat year, Well actually they didnt. LFC did.

As a football vlub we make around 20 - 30 million a year PROFIT.

From player sales last year we broke even. FSG have not invested a penny except for the initial 300 million or so.

They dont want to invest either because A they dont have it or B they dont want too... Either way they were banking on FFP to come in and actually work. Well it wont, FSG might as well= sell up now, Make a small profit and get out before another H+G campaign to out them starts and believe me, If things continue this way, It will happen alot sooner than they might think.

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but they bought a striker.


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Originally Posted By: flames
i was away from the forum for most of the day, this is the first time i got a proper look and it seem to me that people got caught up in the heat of the day, maybe i would have too, but coming in and seeing people who were in the "brendan rodgers cant fail parade" last week suddenly throwing themselves under buses over clint fcking dempsey is utterly absurd to me. we dont buy a 29 year old american handbag who is in the twilight of his career and all of a sudden its new owners time? fck me, clint dempsey became the most powerful man in the world over night.



Can see the point you're making flames, however I respectfully disagree.

What is true is that the manager has cleared out a lot of those just quite clearly not good enough. Leaned up the club and raised the average level of real quality we have at starting 11 level.

He has put the football club in a far better position. It is quite clear he wanted a couple of players in return and has been made to look stupid and had nothing back from the owners. They haven't even given him his boot sale money. That is pis* poor how ever you look at it. I'd go as far as saying they have flat out lied. I wonder how many he would have bothered trying to off load if this was to be the outcome? He could have quite clearly said to Carroll just refuse to go. I bet he'd rather have had him than no cover what so ever.

Dempsey to a lot of fans signified that Vander Vaart bargain (who ironically he has now replaced at Spurs) even though 29. It's not 34/35 and we are talking £6 million FFS, that he has just squared with Adam and the Carroll loan. If he scored half what he did last season he'd be worth it.

All the fans got it, BR got it, FSG again get jack. The odd older player who stands out as an opportunistic bargain at a club who have what is clear now constraints big time is what it is about. This is penny pinching madness from a bunch of clueless amateurs.


Very disappointing, very.

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im sorry, i just dont see the lie everyone is going on about. all i see is if we had have bought dempsey this panic wouldnt be happening, so it really is about dempsey.


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It's not about Clint D Flames, it's about not getting any striker especially with Caroll leaving on bloody LOAN. I don't know who sent Caroll on loan, was it BR who rate hot air (this is what has effectively replaced Caroll) more, is it Caroll himself because he didn't want to be 3rd choice (he wanted to fight for his place a few weeks back, so not sure of this) or is it FSG (they are not going to save much with a loan deal, are they?).

Now, some are saying that FSG backed Daldlish. For me FSG hasn't changed their policy since they arrived, ie, have a net spend of around 20-25m. Yes Dalglish had 100m+ to spend over 2 years but 60m+ was recouped in the process. I saw this coming when we did not buy a striker last Jan (we desperately needed one with Suarez out). From what I've seen so far, I fear that this season will be a joke.

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I'm gonna bank on the assumption that the owners and manager knew what they are doing and on top of they are sitting back enjoying a brandy because they're glad they didn't force a move for someone. I would say that at the end of the day they didn't really want Dempsey that badly. The reason why I say so is 1 his resale value is nil and 2 most importantly because Fulham ownership was pissing around trying to humiliate us through the negotiation process by asking more money from us than anyone else. Look no one wants to be pushed around especially owners who finally realized they [oops] off 100m last summer because others were forcing the need for money to buy mid table players. This just goes to show the growing maturity of the owners as well as the maturity of the club in whole when it comes to acquiring players in that we will not feck around and will not take any BS with all this crap about adding an extra 10 mil to the transfer fee for a player if Liverpool comes a knocking.

Also regarding sturridge, br has stated he wants players who shows respect and commands respect which for sturridge doesn't fit the bill.

Fck it at the end of the day why take another Carroll or charlie adam type of risk, let's wait it out til the winter transfer window by then we SHOULD have some money saved up given that we sold/loaned half the squad and look forward to a big signing and if by Jan 31st we don't have anyone prolific or half prolific and we're in the dumps, meaning we are below Everton in the table, I say we storm Boston and revolt.

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Originally Posted By: flames
im sorry, i just dont see the lie everyone is going on about. all i see is if we had have bought dempsey this panic wouldnt be happening, so it really is about dempsey.


Its not about fking dempsey. We needed a striker, we were linked with 4 or 5 on deadline day and Rodgers gave us the vote of confidence in his press conference that at least 1 or 2 will arrive but no one arrived. Now we are stuck with Borini who is unproven and a 10 goal a season Suarez to carry us through 4 competitions. Its about bringing bodies in that could of helped our goal tally, fsg clearly fked up big time.


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well for me it is about dempsey and i bet u 100% BR went to bed fuming about the dempsey thing. ITs a joke they way we handled it.

then just to add fuel to the fire, we let AC go and replace him with a youth player. leaving us with 1 quality striker

then there is the lies,no stadium and just nonsense coming from fsg.

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Originally Posted By: flames
im sorry, i just dont see the lie everyone is going on about. all i see is if we had have bought dempsey this panic wouldnt be happening, so it really is about dempsey.


Agreed. And it was only a week or 2 back that people weren't too bothered about him arriving or not. I reckon that 99% of the anger on here is down to people getting sucked into the madness of deadline day and seeing other clubs spending money.

Did we not want to avoid panic buys?
Did we not spend our money before deadline day to avoid getting shafted again?


Getting Dempsey would have been nice but I don't see our failure to sign him as some kind of disaster. I'm not even sure where he would have fitted in.

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