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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
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yep Sterling can play left or right.

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after tonite I feel more strongly Carroll should of stayed, we played are nice pretty passing football but it served us no good, what we needed was a plan B something different and this is where I feel we needed something a bit different and Andy is certainly that, there will be plenty more times this season when this pretty passing wont work and this is where we need to try a different approach.



yep, myself, and quite a few others, having been saying this since the rumors first cropped up months ago. just carroll's presence, the way he automatically makes defenders nervous which creates gaps for other players just by being on the pitch, and the options that having a player that size with such a good header gives us. those are all the reasons i would've liked for him to stay. i do understand, though, that rodgers would rather let him go and strengthen our plan A, rather than keep a player on he doesn't plan on using regularly. letting carroll go frees up money to strengthen plan A. i get it, and i do think that it's probably for the best, but i still don't like it.

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Dalglish did not rate Carroll (despite paying £35m for him) and now Rodgers does not rate him. That tells us all we need to know. He did have a little cameo end of last season but from the season as a whole he was very disappointing


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He's gone now so lets just say it, Andy Carrol was sh!t. And for the price we paid one of the worst signings in our history i cant think of any worse ones. 4 league goals last season says is all people say he needs time he's had a year and a half time to move him on if he stayed i wouldn't of minded i can see how he's useful but lets be realistic we could get alot better for cheaper.

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I really hope we've got somebody lined up to replace him, else this move will end up being very expensive for us (more than the 35m we haven't recouped yet anyway). Our only 2 strikers/centre forwards are Suarez and Borini right now and even if they are not natural goal scorers they are sort of doing the job. Now if they are injured/unfit/red carded/banned...it would be up to the youngster Adam Morgan. sounds a bit like betting on Ngog in such situations

I understand we are trying Sturridge, but Chelsea also looks short in that area if they have injured players isn't it? Also heard about Klaas Van H...I am getting a bit worried now. Can only hope that BR knows what he is doing

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Whilst he can be a threatening plan b, he didn't want to be a plan B player. He said himself that he wants to play games and I think Rodgers has been honest and told him he will be a bench player again so the loan makes sense. No one was prepared to pay the money we wanted for him now, and he wasn't going to be a regular first started for us, so he wasn't worth much to us. If he does well at West ham then there is a deal in place for them to buy him afterwards, and if he has gelled well with their team, we can hold him to ransom in terms of fee. Or, he plays well and attracts bigger offers from other clubs. Or, he does well and we can have him back. Or he is a flop there and in which case we aren't in any worse of a position having had his wages paid for a year. I like Carroll, but always sensed it wasn't going to fit. All the best to him and hope he gets the football he wants.

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Originally Posted By: Zombie
Whilst he can be a threatening plan b, he didn't want to be a plan B player. He said himself that he wants to play games and I think Rodgers has been honest and told him he will be a bench player again so the loan makes sense. No one was prepared to pay the money we wanted for him now, and he wasn't going to be a regular first started for us, so he wasn't worth much to us. If he does well at West ham then there is a deal in place for them to buy him afterwards, and if he has gelled well with their team, we can hold him to ransom in terms of fee. Or, he plays well and attracts bigger offers from other clubs. Or, he does well and we can have him back. Or he is a flop there and in which case we aren't in any worse of a position having had his wages paid for a year. I like Carroll, but always sensed it wasn't going to fit. All the best to him and hope he gets the football he wants.


As you say Zombie, all the best to him, if he is unwanted so be it. However, I hope we can get somebody better than him in the next few hrs else we would have saved a few bucks on his salary with a risk of disaster of not having any centre forward if Suarez and Borini are out. I must admit that I still rate Caroll more than Borini from what I have seen so far, but that's only my humble opinion

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A more well rounded striker would be nice. I definitely think Borini has his uses, he has made some really intelligent runs on the fringe of the offside trap, played in Suarez really well for the goal last night and I think the finishing will come. Suarez is obviously a tricky customer running out from wide plus in and around the box, I would just like someone who instinctively knocks it into the net, can use their head, bring the ball down. Somewhere inbetween the polar opposites that are Carroll and Suarez. Would be delighted with either Llorente or Huuntelaar (sp?).

Just a right place, right time man.

Someone who if Suarez makes one of his mazy runs, can pass to and you're just sure they will be knocking it in.

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I'm sorry to see him leave, but far better to loan him to a mediocre team than to have him polishing the bench at full wage.


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