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No nothings new the club has been really badly run for decades now which is why we have never won the prem and don't look like doing so for another 20 years.


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He looks disinterested to me. Almost as if he's realised he's slowing down and doesn't want another injury ravaged season, so he's calmed his tackles down and forgone some of his rampaging forward runs. He should be judged anew like all players under BR, and with Sahin, and given how he's playing, he's no longer irreplaceable. Very interesting season ahead.

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Originally Posted By: RedMrLowe
He looks disinterested to me. Almost as if he's realised he's slowing down and doesn't want another injury ravaged season, so he's calmed his tackles down and forgone some of his rampaging forward runs. He should be judged anew like all players under BR, and with Sahin, and given how he's playing, he's no longer irreplaceable. Very interesting season ahead.
maybe he knows deep down he made a bit of a mess of his career and it's taking it's toll, like I say I dont think he was that bad on Sunday but his body language did seem a bit down, maybe he's still a bit tired after playing for England in the Summer.

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[/quote]maybe he knows deep down he made a bit of a mess of his career and it's taking it's toll, [/quote]


Wtf???

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A bit of a mess of his career?

He has won every honour in club football bar the Premier League.

He has captained Liverpool FC and England.

He has played and scored in World Cups and European Nations Cups.

He has 150 goals for his club.

There are plenty of players who wish they could mess up like that.

Honours

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FA Cup (2): 2000–01, 2005–06
League Cup (3): 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12
FA Community Shield (2): 2001, 2006
UEFA Champions League (1): 2004–05
UEFA Cup (1): 2000–01
UEFA Super Cup (2): 2001, 2005

Individual
FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year (2): 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year (7): 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
Premier League Player of the Month Award (5): March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009
Liverpool Top Goalscorer (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
Ballon d'Or Bronze Award (1): 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match (1): 2005
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI (3): 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Cup Final Man of the Match (1): 2006
Goal of the Season (1): 2006
England Player of the Year (1): 2007
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Healthy bank balance aswell.


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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
A bit of a mess of his career?

He has won every honour in club football bar the Premier League.

He has captained Liverpool FC and England.

He has played and scored in World Cups and European Nations Cups.

He has 150 goals for his club.

There are plenty of players who wish they could mess up like that.

Honours

Club
FA Cup (2): 2000–01, 2005–06
League Cup (3): 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12
FA Community Shield (2): 2001, 2006
UEFA Champions League (1): 2004–05
UEFA Cup (1): 2000–01
UEFA Super Cup (2): 2001, 2005

Individual
FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year (2): 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year (7): 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
Premier League Player of the Month Award (5): March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009
Liverpool Top Goalscorer (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
Ballon d'Or Bronze Award (1): 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match (1): 2005
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI (3): 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Cup Final Man of the Match (1): 2006
Goal of the Season (1): 2006
England Player of the Year (1): 2007
Member of the Order of the British Empire: 2007
Honorary Fellowship from Liverpool John Moores University: 2008
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005







Yeah what a waster, if only the lad had applied himself! Good grief thats a peach of a comment, even for this place.

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''made a mess of his career''. Surely your having a laugh! Ask yourself how many of them trophies would we have won over the last 12 or so years if he wasnt in the team and how many more trophies we could have won had we had better players around him?

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
People on this forum have a weird lust for ending people's careers. Gerrard isn't 37 or 38 - he's still at an age where good midfielders can contribute, even if most of them have to adjust their game somewhat. I don't think he's disinterested at all... on the contrary he sounds quite excited about Joe Allen coming in. I think he's trying to adjust his game and get back to what he does best. He's been carrying the can for so long... for Liverpool and England. He's become defensive minded and it'll take a few games for him to change his mentality. Gerrard is a fine player - a good captain - and he has a lot left to contribute. The overreaction on this site is just silly!


Spot on!

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Liking some of the comments on here pro and c.on reminds me of the good old days.

Now to play devils advocate: If and when we have a fully fit squad would Stevie play in the middle three or the top three?

Players in the middle are Gerrard, Sahin, Henderson, Lucas, Adams, Allen and Shelvey

Players up top are Suarez, Carroll, J Cole, Assaidi, Downing, Borini and Sterling

This is before anymore players come in or youth players making progress

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