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#259455 18/08/12 10:14 PM
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Dalglish - World Class Striker - Andy Carroll - £35Million grin


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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
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No one will want to join us after this. Ramirez turned us down for Southampton and you can see why. The club is in disarray, the owners are all over the shop, the manager is clueless, the players loil desperate and the fans are suffering


Your posts are so hyperbolic that they are on the verge of slander. Can you please employ some common sense at least? You can't judge BR on one game - and technically he is 2 and 1 for the season after winning both the Euro ties. The club is not in disarray - quite the opposite in fact. Maybe things aren't quite right on the pitch but the club is in its strongest position for quite a few years. As for projecting other managers would have won the game - you can't promise that so there's no point offering it. We went down to a worldy - we failed to get back into it and then went a man down. A prem game can easily go from 1-0 to 3-0 with bad luck or a mistake - there is just no reason to overreact here. I think Spurs were hammered in their first game last year - so were Newcastle. These players are still working out the summer cobwebs and trying to figure out how to play with each other.


Listen pal. Our team played WORSER than we did under Kenny last season!! Kenny shouldn't have been sacked. He was doing well, he brought a trophy to the club and was settling in fine. The club was progressing. BR is 2 steps back and the fixtures aren't too kind Bolton has a similar situation last season and got splattered by United, us, Chelsea, Arsenal and City. And they never took off after that. This is a confidence game and unless a 20m goal scorer is brought in before the City game, we are staring down the barrell and at the moment 17th doesn't look too bad.


You mean played 'worse' right? Well, actually that's just not true. The game today resembled a lot of games from last season. We dominated early - should have taken the lead - went down to a bit of class and fell apart. That was the story of last season in many games - so your point doesn't wash. As far as your assessment of BR goes - it's too early to say. He's won two games and lost one so far this season - and your judgment of him is based on very little to say the least. Just show some support - at least for a few games.


I am showing support. I have quietly watched the whole episode of pre-season and the players he's bought and reserved judgement until today. It was a terrible performance mate. I was there and saw Reds leaving early. That didn't happen at ANY POINT last season. It was a debarcle. Why take off Lucas? EVERYTHING fell apart after that. Hodgson didn't get a chance and we're ruing that, but he was a proven manager. Rodgers is not proven, it's a risk and we can't afford to do that. Other clubs are getting away from us.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Dalglish - World Class Striker - Andy Carroll - £35Million grin



Andy Carroll has the potential to be world class. He was a prudent signing and Rodgers has refused to use him properly. We need to play him from the start if we don't get Bent in.

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet


I am showing support. I have quietly watched the whole episode of pre-season and the players he's bought and reserved judgement until today. It was a terrible performance mate. I was there and saw Reds leaving early. That didn't happen at ANY POINT last season. It was a debarcle. Why take off Lucas? EVERYTHING fell apart after that. Hodgson didn't get a chance and we're ruing that, but he was a proven manager. Rodgers is not proven, it's a risk and we can't afford to do that. Other clubs are getting away from us.


It was disappointing yes... but there were so many games like that last season and you can't say this is worse. Spurs also lost their opening game - Arsenal were held at home. Few teams come out firing on all cylinders mate... it takes a few games to get the fitness, rhythm and teamwork going. Allen and Borini are both new... and it'll take time to get this new system going. [/quote]

Spurs weren't dragged from pillar to post. Arsenal looked dangerous and SUnderland are a good side. I think we'll struggle against them when we play them. In fact, I think we'll struggle away from home in general. We need to make Anfield a fortress starting next week against City.

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So you reserved judgement until today or until after today's result?

I think you would have been on here proclaiming BR as a tactical genius and the greatest manager we have ever had if we had won 3-0.

As another former manager once said

"If you can't support us when we draw or lose, don't support us when we win"

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i thought dunc was cleaning the forum up ?

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Hi Kop, nice to see the voice of reason has arrived wink

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
So you reserved judgement until today or until after today's result?

I think you would have been on here proclaiming BR as a tactical genius and the greatest manager we have ever had if we had won 3-0.

As another former manager once said

"If you can't support us when we draw or lose, don't support us when we win"


Mate. I love the club as much as the next Red. But, I don't want to sit here quietly as if nothing is wrong. There is a fundamental gap in the club and it needs to be addressed. I stayed right to the end at the Hawthorns, so my support shouldn't be questioned. I feel perturbed at your astonishing suggestion. It's almost slanderous that I'm being accused for treason against LFC.

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WLTK NEVER gave Rodgers a chance. I gave him a chance and this is what happens. In life, you need to be ruthless and when people mess up in this manner you need to look seriously at what you need to do to fix the problem. That is my opinion and if I get scolded or banned for providing my opinion then that is a joke. Rodgers needs time, OK, but how much? 3 years? What if we're 12th, 13th and 14th in the next 3 seasons? WHat then? Players will leave and world class players that would've given an arm and a leg to join us will not even consider us. This transition period and moment in our history is very, very critical. This is where we needed a manager with a proven track record to take us forward. This innovative approach is more reminiscent of American sports as proven by our owners. Rodgers should be given a fair chance, but not so much that he destroys the club.

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