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thats taken at an average of the collective amount of players throughout the entire league. does age and pecking order not come into the argument at all?

at the end of the day he is playing at his boyhood club and would do anything to stay on the books at anfield in my opinion. hardly furious at all. infact i think he'll be grateful to have had a small run in top flight football at a club as illustrious as ours, especially when its the club he's supported as a child.

i question wether you can gather any accurate estimate by looking at the average wage bill of the entire league. there are people who earn over £200k p/w at city. there must be 30-40 players who earn well over £100k p/w thats nearly 2 squads full.

i would say he earns less than £30k a week. he's a young bit part reserve player who only got a game because lucas was out injured. he signed his new contract when he'd only played a handful of games when kenny first took over. unless you can give me factual evidence i'll continue to disagree.

there are players on far much more money than him who bring less to, or as little as he does to the team. henderson, cole, adam etc



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I would tend to agree with the under £30k a week argument however if it is any more is it any wonder why we are going to struggle to move any of these players on? If the likes of Spearing is on £40k a week who is going to buy him for a fee and then pay him that amount or more to entice him to their club? And is it any wonder why we are always looking to loan players out rather than use them when we find ourselves overloaded with too many same type players.

Agents know that we pay too many people too much money. Only way to break this is to start blooding more youngsters and try and keep a lid on the pay at all levels.

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Originally Posted By: Stuntman_Mike
You'll probably find Lucas is only on around 40 / 50k


I think your dreaming if you think an important player like Lucas is only on 40k a week in this day of age. He's on 80k at least.


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In the Gomel game alot of fans commended suarez and borini link up, lucas for being a rock in the middle but one of the major factors that lead to the squad looking incredible was stevie. Because of the quality midfielder he is, capable of speeding up and slowing down the game picking out the right pass, the squad look very fluent in its play. Now if we take stevie out the mix who do we really have to step up and control that midfield, even though we love shelvey and hendo (some fans) they are still learning the game they often rush the game or like hendo play it safe the whole time and we never get in the attack.

Couple season ago sahin was the best player in german league for a reason he could play deep and pick out a pass anywhere on the pitch hes intelligent and reads the game, he can play high or stay deep if we want him to. the only problem is he couldnt play on the wing, but get dempsey and gaston could cover that area. Sahin and the other players are the key to LFC season, the difference between doing how everyone expected us to do or reaching for greatness. i believe if we get all those players allen would eventually get relegated to the bench until stevie sahin or lucas gets injured.

Shipping out spearing adam cole and hendo seems a must, at this point spearing is almost at the stage where if he doesnt have hthe talent yet it aint coming so sell him and bring in coady as the alternative to develop.


Would be surprised if Allen doesn't start regularly.

I think Stevie is excellent too, but not defensively any more. He can't do both, and we need creativity. So yes he can play right behind the front 3, but putting Allen in there may help the midfield 3, because Allen has a lot of energy, and chases the ball down. He's not as creative as Gerrard right now, but he is still fairly creative. Gerrard down the right can come inside (we saw a lot of movement from the front three) if needed.

I don't really know what Rodgers is thinking. I quite like the sound of Gerrard Lucas and Allen, myself.


Agree Rafa. Stevie G has got goals in him. In fact i go further to say that he does not score enough with his head cause he is really a very good header of the ball - it is jsut that he is also a better crosser of the ball at the same time.

He bombs forward and creates havoc. how many times in previous seasons have we seen him make a run into the box and craving for a better ball being played into his path or for him to run onto, only for the passer, either kuyt, maxi, or whoever to screw things up leaving us exposed to a counter attack.

Stevie cant defend and attack at this age. he is better of going forward. We will leave the defensive and covering duties to allen and Lucas this season.

i also predict in certain games that he will play on the right side of attack in some games. His attacking position is very good and he knows where to postion himself for crosses and his recycling of possession for failed crosses is quite good. with Johnson bombing forward as well - we should see a lot more goals from jim (i.e. johnson).

Sahin, lucas and allen will rotate amongst themselves and in tighter games where possession is key, all four might start with Suarez as the main striker and perhaps another winger

a part of me thinks that Dempsey will add strength to our attack. He is a very good header of the ball and he chases back and hassle like a defender. he is very very strong lad. a friend of mine played against him when they were in college and said he is built like a rock and totally fearless.

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i think you're right about gerrard. with lucas and allen being the 'legs' of the midfield.

as for dempsey i personally would have expected to see him played out wide. but some suggest he would play in a more central role. must admit i havent seen that much of him so im still on the fence over the dempsey deal. if he can get any sort of goal return he had at fulham last year though he's bound to be a top signing. just depends wether he can come in and perfrom. adam was a top player at blackpool, downing at villa, yet none of them have produced the same sort of form

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if Adam is thrown in as a sweetener, i would have Dempsey. even if he is not a first 11 player, he is going to be really useful coming off the bench.

If he is, i can see him being played on the left forward of the 4-3-3.

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Nuri Sahin has told Brendan Rodgers he wants a move to Liverpool and a deal could be done in the next 48 hours. [Echo]

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Liverpool are willing to pay a greater proportion of Sahin's wages than Arsenal are, which appeals to Real Madrid. (Tony Barrett - Times)

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What is the 'real' situation on this one?

A) Is it Liverpool that don't want to buy him outright?
B) Is it Madrid that don't want to sell him outright?
C) Is the players heart still in Madrid and he doesn't want to move to England permanently?

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Why don't you ask your die hard Madrid mates?

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I don't care either way re: Dempsey coming here. I just care that Adam is gone soon. Just give him to Fulham to get him off the wage sheet and extinguish the possibility of him kicking another ball for LFC. I'd much rather see us playing against him than playing with him on our team.

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