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We dont compete in the boat race, Wimbledon, the Ryder Cup Tour de France or PGA Golf and we haven't qualified for the Champions League (European Cup) Silly silly boy.

We all know we wont win the league so that is perhaps an unattainable wish.

So that means in reality that you hope we win the FA Cup and the League Cup.

Given that we won one of those last year and lost in the final of the other, those are reasonable expectations.

Well done, now how hard was that. wink

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Originally Posted By: Annefield58
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
I don't see a lot of improvements. All we have done for the last few years is sell one player to buy another one of equal or lesser quality. There might be 1 or 2 exceptions to the rule but who have we bought recently which has been an upgrade on their predecessor?

Carroll is worse than Torres
Henderson is no better/worse than Poulsen
Borini for Kuyt? jury is out
Johnson is worse than Arbeloa
Adam is worse than Meireles
Downing is no better/worse than babel/reira


If all we are doing is spending money to appease the fans whilst not improving the team then I'd prefer it if we skipped a transfer window and 'saved up' for someone worth having.

Don't agree with all that, Carroll scored more goals last season than Torres, maybe you're stuck in or around 3 seasons ago, when Torres could play a bit.
I also think you're being too pessimistic, given that we will be a very different proposition this season with a new manager, new style of playing, Lucas back Suarez unlikely to be out for several critical games as he was last season, Gerrard likely (and already looking) to be fitter than he was when he came back after his awful injury last season. In addition we have added a new signing, (Borini) and likely to sign Allen (players known to suit BRs style of play) and possibly one or two more. Added to all that we are most unlikely to see another season as freakish in front of goal as we had last season. In my opinion that all adds up to a pretty good reason to be optimistic, for me a top 4 finish is a possibility, I don't say a probability, but it is a possibility and until it becomes impossible I'll remain optimistic.


You've got your facts wrong. Carroll did NOT score more than Torres last season. And even when Torres was firing blanks he was still playing very well and creating a lot for his team mates.
I'm not sure whether Borini suits BR's tactics as he hasn't played under him for a while. As for Allen....well, it's all well and good knowing how BR plays but I'm not sure how useful that will be when he has the likes of henderson, adam and spearing beside him!

I can't see us doing worse than last year but I can't see us doing much better either.....Here's how I think the top 8 will finish..

1st Man City - not a hope in hell of finishing above them
2nd Man Utd - see above
3rd Chelsea - fa cup winners, champions league winners and already better than us before they bought marin, hazard & oscar
4th Arsenal - finished 17 points above us with a 20+ goal difference advantage, PLUS they have bought some very good players this summer. No chance of them finishing outside the top4
5th Spurs - Finished way ahead of us and despite losing Redknapp, they still have a very good squad
6th Newcastle - no reason why would they do any worse next season
7th Liverpool - without Kenny we must surely improve but our squad is a bit thin at present
8th Everton - could be very close between us & everton. They will have Jelavic for a whole season this time around and have strengthened other areas as well.

Ok maybe Torres nicked one or two at the seasons end , but even if he did it's neither here nor there when comparing performance the margin would have to be higher. As to Borini he has played under BR and was also coached by BR at Chelsea so yes BR knows he suits his style.
As to who plays beside him you don't know who that might be as of now, it may not include Henderson, Adam or Spearing, so I don't see the relevance of that remark.
I note you failed to address my point about the return of Lucas, the improved fitness of Gerrard, a new manager, new style of play, the unlikely-hood of loosing Suarez for a significant number of matches.
All in all a pretty selective response. Seems like you want to push negatives regardless of the arguments to the contrary.
Just one thing, Liverpool are a better team without Suarez, you look at the results and performances last season when he was banned, our best spell coincided with him out of the team.

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Originally Posted By: longmoorlane
Just one thing, Liverpool are a better team without Suarez, you look at the results and performances last season when he was banned, our best spell coincided with him out of the team.


And Carroll in the team. Since you agree so much with CarheeX, doesn't this defeat your purpose?

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Anybody know who he is trying to convince about something? Must be his alter egos on here.


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This boy is crack'in up"

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Originally Posted By: deakin
This forum was better when a certain member was banned. The happy times coincided with him being out for the hundreth time.
I think your being too hard on yourself there, I honestly dont mind your posts in fact they amuse me, the forum would be much duller without your foolhardy input, please keep up the good work.

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Originally Posted By: wakka
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tock...tock...tock...

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You got rid of your ticks then.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Originally Posted By: lumba
You got rid of your ticks then.
nah leave the ticks to the others, i always prefer the last word anyway.

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Typical woman

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That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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