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yeh i forget jonjos pace is like a snails, but it never stopped xabi becoming a class midfielfder all be it a different kind of midfielder.

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Originally Posted By: Deco
yeh i forget jonjos pace is like a snails, but it never stopped xabi becoming a class midfielfder all be it a different kind of midfielder.


My feeling is that Shelvey will play a lot more games once Lucas is fully fit and flying into tackles again. We don't really need the second DM when Lucas is at his best, so we'd be able to play more of a 4-1-2-3 style, which would suit Shelvey alongside Gerrard. Until Lucas is ready though we'll need to rely on Spearing with a more defensively capable midfielder at his side, so I perfectly understand Henderson's inclusion as the 3rd midfielder over Shelvey on this occasion. It was a pity that Henderson exhausted himself during the game - he could have benefited greatly from being able to get forward a bit more with Lucas covering, and could probably have brought Gerrard into the game more as a result.

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Apparently the players just trudged off the pitch last night with no appreciation shown to the fans?What a fuc*ing disgrace this club has become.Ged Poynton has a lot to answer for.

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I disagree. Hendo looked pretty good to me, especially right before he came off. He isn't a glamourous footballer because he keeps things very simple and looks for the easy pass usually (which spearing needs to learn how to do). Jay's had worse games than today, but he gives the ball away far too much. Jordan needs a bit more confidence to take more risks because he has the skills to back them up. Spearing takes far too many and doesn't have the skills to pull off what he's trying to do.


Henderson gave the ball away several times because he passed into space where he expected someone to run, but the run never came. The "someone" was Spearing practically every time. Demonstrates quite ably that the former is much more likely to make an impact in this system than the latter. Tiki-taka isn't about standing around - it's about running hard to give options to the ball carrier, and Henderson does this naturally (which explains why he was so tired, and also why Gerrard wasn't in the game after Hendo was subbed, because Gerrard didn't put much effort about the park last night, let's be honest). Spearing often can't even make a pass that finds a team mate who is standing still, so how will he factor in movement as well?


Yeah, i noticed that too. I think he has the ability to play this sort of style of footy. He came really close to hitting Borini with a killer through ball 2 or 3 times. I really think Hendo will come into his own this year.

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Originally Posted By: Martinezmuststay
yes certainly jonjo looks up for it and a proper go getter,just wish he had a turn of pace..hendo is a hider, we will have to cut our losses on him.


No he's not a hider. He's always showing for the ball, always recycling possession, always keeping things moving. True, he doesn't make many hollywood passes, and he doesn't take many defenders on (which is unfortunate because he has the pace and ability), but that doesn't mean he's hiding from the game. People call him "5-yard pass" or the "invisible man" because he's doing the grunt work. If everyone would move with their passes like he's doing, our possession would have been much better last night.

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Originally Posted By: Martinezmuststay
i am sure jetlag must have played a part and i am sure hendo will never be able to play in the 3


Agreed martinez it must have been a hell of a journey and after the heat in the USA. We did a job thats all to be said.


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I didn't really watch the match yesterday, but I heard Joe was substituted after 20min. Was this injury related or was he just plain crap.

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I disagree. Hendo looked pretty good to me, especially right before he came off. He isn't a glamourous footballer because he keeps things very simple and looks for the easy pass usually (which spearing needs to learn how to do). Jay's had worse games than today, but he gives the ball away far too much. Jordan needs a bit more confidence to take more risks because he has the skills to back them up. Spearing takes far too many and doesn't have the skills to pull off what he's trying to do.


Henderson gave the ball away several times because he passed into space where he expected someone to run, but the run never came. The "someone" was Spearing practically every time. Demonstrates quite ably that the former is much more likely to make an impact in this system than the latter. Tiki-taka isn't about standing around - it's about running hard to give options to the ball carrier, and Henderson does this naturally (which explains why he was so tired, and also why Gerrard wasn't in the game after Hendo was subbed, because Gerrard didn't put much effort about the park last night, let's be honest). Spearing often can't even make a pass that finds a team mate who is standing still, so how will he factor in movement as well?


Yeah, i noticed that too. I think he has the ability to play this sort of style of footy. He came really close to hitting Borini with a killer through ball 2 or 3 times. I really think Hendo will come into his own this year.


Said that about his through-balls to Bellamy last season as well - the lad can spot a run. Not that many on this forum cared; they were too blinded by his transfer fee and lack of appearances on the score sheet.

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I think that when your club invests £20million on a player you are fully within your right to expect more than a few 'nearly' through passes...

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Originally Posted By: Chris2402
I think that when your club invests £20million on a player you are fully within your right to expect more than a few 'nearly' through passes...


"Bought him for 5 years not 5 months," remember? A 21 year old won't set the EPL alight in his first season with a new club. Don't forget the 50% "tax" on home grown talent...

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