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i agree, craney. it's like they try his system then get tired of it and decide to launch it upfield. almost as if they don't have the patience for it to work. It's gonna take a long time to get in these players heads and conscience, it's like they have become accustomed to playing this way, habit, it's always panic stations on the ball, Rodgers wants them calm but focused, he may well get this before a game, but when they get on the pitch they program themselves back into square one. It's like kiddy football, 50 players on both sides running around with not a care in the world. I did not expect us to play this long when Rodgers was appointed, or give away the ball so cheaply. And while I'll state again that I believe Rodgers is the right man, the football has not changed that much from previous regimes so far and I think Rodgers will soon see the mammoth of a task it actually is, to get these players who have become used to playing throw away football for years, in shape and playing the right way. 
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Let's be patient though. We can't expect drastic improvement overnight. Let's not forget, at Swansea, the foundations had been laid by Martinez and Sousa before BR took it to the next level. We don't have that same continuity. Kenny had us playing some nice stuff at times but before that it was Roy and Rafa, neither of whom were too easy on the eyes.
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i agree, craney. it's like they try his system then get tired of it and decide to launch it upfield. almost as if they don't have the patience for it to work. It's gonna take a long time to get in these players heads and conscience, it's like they have become accustomed to playing this way, habit, it's always panic stations on the ball, Rodgers wants them calm but focused, he may well get this before a game, but when they get on the pitch they program themselves back into square one. It's like kiddy football, 50 players on both sides running around with not a care in the world. I did not expect us to play this long when Rodgers was appointed, or give away the ball so cheaply. And while I'll state again that I believe Rodgers is the right man, the football has not changed that much from previous regimes so far and I think Rodgers will soon see the mammoth of a task it actually is, to get these players who have become used to playing throw away football for years, in shape and playing the right way. true, but he got Swansea to do it. I still believe he can get us to do it as well.
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i agree, craney. it's like they try his system then get tired of it and decide to launch it upfield. almost as if they don't have the patience for it to work. It's gonna take a long time to get in these players heads and conscience, it's like they have become accustomed to playing this way, habit, it's always panic stations on the ball, Rodgers wants them calm but focused, he may well get this before a game, but when they get on the pitch they program themselves back into square one. It's like kiddy football, 50 players on both sides running around with not a care in the world. I did not expect us to play this long when Rodgers was appointed, or give away the ball so cheaply. And while I'll state again that I believe Rodgers is the right man, the football has not changed that much from previous regimes so far and I think Rodgers will soon see the mammoth of a task it actually is, to get these players who have become used to playing throw away football for years, in shape and playing the right way. true, but he got Swansea to do it. I still believe he can get us to do it as well. No he didnt. He continued what Martinez had built. However, he got it to be successful in the premier league. But Swansea would play keep ball for large large large periods of a game. Dictate a game with the ball, not without it. But our defenders and goalkeeper are still resorting to route 1, I just don't get that, especially with Rodgers as the manager. And we are still giving away the ball as cheaply as we have done with every other manager. I think it would be wise to bring in 4 or 5 players, even players on loan if need be, who are used to the system and capable of playing in it.
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Good result tonight in terms of pre season confidence builder
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Good result but the performance was 3 out of 10 at best. Disappointing and some of them looked uninterested. Really great to see Lucas back, lets hope he can get back to his best before he got injured quickly because we need him badly in that midfield.
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craney, sounds like you're expecting us to play like Barca.
We are trying keep ball, but through lack of movement or technique it is breaking down and we're resorting to route 1 at times. But that's not the majority of the time. You said it not me. Once again taking it to the extreme.I don't expect us to play like Barca EVER, EVER, EVER, so stop making it out as if I said that. I don't even believe Swansea played like Barcelona. But I expect us to retain the ball much better than this, and stop resulting to long ball with players up front who are not built for that game, another reason getting rid of Carroll makes no sense, especially if your going to play long ball as much as we have been doing. We kept the ball better with Rafa, and that included a variety of passes at a higher tempo, combined with high pressurizing of the ball to. Or are you going to tell me we didn't do that? Or are you going to tell me that we haven't got that level of player now? Its going to take time? And its still pre-season again?
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I was scratching my head when hendo came off instead of spearing. hendo was close to finding Borini with a killer pass a couple of times. spearing was terrible. lucas looked great though. I'm surprised we didn't play carroll with all the route 1 stuff we did.
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His movement was really good, but he didn't do much with the ball. He had a good run where he could have scored in the second half, but was boxed out by the keeper.
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