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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
But you said earlier Faz that it was Suarez'z fault that KD lost his job.

Now your blaming Dalglish

Make your mind up man.
yes dalglish was some of the blame for not nipping it in the bud and inflaming the situation with the teeshirt wearing and saying suarez did nothing wrong .

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So first it was Suarez to blame, then Dalgish, now both of them

Who will it be next?

Can't wait to find out.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
So first it was Suarez to blame, then Dalgish, now both of them

Who will it be next?

Can't wait to find out.
suarez for the actions he took and dalglish as his manager not stopping it and then backing him wearing teeshirts etc etc , well do you think that was the right way for a manager to work ?

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You lot are just the same as john terrys supporters in the courtroom. If the guy wears our shirt we must support him no matter what. The world is against us. We are right. It's all fergies fault blah blah blah. I'm sure that the club has no problem with Suarez talking about his dreadful year and the effect it has had on him and his family. But to raise the whole thing again with I'm the innocent party is too much. He is just looking for a way out of the club if they dare to do anything to him. I saw him pinch Evras skin and say something. What do think it was. ' what moisturiser do you use'?. He tried to use racial abuse to wind Evra up and it backfired. No one says he is a racist so the stuff about his family is irrelevant.

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You're missing the point KD. It's about the fairness of the process.

Everyone knows something happened. Suarez admitted from day 1 that he used a particular Spanish word. However, he maintains that it was not intended as an insult, it certainly did not mean 'N1gger' as was the original accusation, it wasn't the English word of the same spelling, and he used it only once.

Yet without any sound or video evidence to prove what actually said, he was deemed guilty of saying something seven times in an abusive manner. Something which even Evra didn't claim he said and something which no one heard. Something for which he was then punished not just with an 8 game ban but with the bashing he got from the press and the public too.

Even if he said it a thousand times, I don't think it's right to reach a conclusion through guessing without clinching evidence in a matter which has serious repurcussions.

You say you saw him pinch Evra skin and say something and what do we think he said? The point is that we can think all we like. We might have strong suspicions of what he said. But the fact is the we don't know. There's nothing to prove exactly what he said.

You accuse him of raising the whole thing again. What is he supposed to say? If he still mainatins his innocence, why shouldn't he say so if asked the question?

If he is looking for a way out of the club and the country then so what? I wouldn't blame him. Sure he made mistakes but the club bungled the whole situation and let him down too.

He's not an angel. The chances are he did say something he shouldn't have. But whoever the accused is in any situation, in a civilised society we like to apply justice fairly at every step. And in this case, in my opinion there just wasn't enough evidence to reach the damming conclusion the panel arrived at.


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i agree with the prophet it was because he was a foreigner that the press and the FA when nuts plain and simple

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
So first it was Suarez to blame, then Dalgish, now both of them

Who will it be next?

Can't wait to find out.



Benitez.....obviously.

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i blame everyone lol

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The FA had to act because Evras complained. Going by the testimony in terrys trial every minute of every game in just non.stop playground level abuse.from a bunch of poorly educated thickos. Who knows what they are saying and I'm sure a.lot of the abuse is racial. In this case evra called it out. And before everyone howls none of us here know his motives. Who knows what black players have to endure week in week out. Terry may get away with it not because of a fergie conspiracy but because an off duty cop complained. Suarez should have demanded a court trial if he wanted the same level of evidential proof. Although if found guilty he would have had a criminal record. As for the insults used , and they were used , being a term of affectionate teasing in south America, please give me a break. No one on here really believes that that was Suarez's intention. Really.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
So first it was Suarez to blame, then Dalgish, now both of them

Who will it be next?

Can't wait to find out.



Benitez.....obviously.
no but if you want to blame benitez its up to you , but it'd embarrassing the way you all make out nothing happened and dalglish and suarez were innocent and its all a massive conspiracy .

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