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#249177 14/07/12 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
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BS after the the crap that was coming out of its mouth aimed at me, can I not react after being called 3 things for no valid reason, other than it disagreeing with me supporting Andy Carroll and my opinion on when statistics and comparisons can be made. Up until the last couple of posts in this thread I wasn't provocative at all in any way shape or form.

I aint playing the victim, I'm just pointing out what was said and what has been said. Along with what I've said. No changes, no cherry picking, nothing.

You know, one time, I seriously considered looking at a "VIP" pass for the other forum. But with the sort of sh*t that happens on this free one, It's put me of. Why would I pay for any more of this?

I wonder if new members who come on here to try this out first feel the same way as me?


You can react, by all means do so smile I'm not in charge here. I didn't say you couldn't. I just said I don't think you can claim to be innocent or the victim. Again, calling someone "it" is provocative.

I don't know about your past disagreements. You say you've done nothing to provoke it, but you said that about your posts here too.

If you feel so badly about it here, perhaps take a break. It seems to be stressing you too much.



You've got him bang to rites mate. I've seen his name popping up trying to provoke all sorts of people and then he claims to be the victim. You've seen right through it. If that is the game he plays he shouldn't get so sensitive when other people play it back to him.

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[quote=Rafarendum]Back on topic, if anyone had a choice who they think has more potential and deserves games, Pacheco, Sterling or Suso, it's gotta be the last two for me. So any game time Pacheco gets is wasted game time. [/quote

Agree with you there. Pacheco has already been given bits of game time here and there, and that's all you get as a young player at a club (supposedly) vying for champions league spots. Suso and Sterling are who I'd give all of any time Pacheco was going to get (I don't think he was going to get any anyway).

#249251 14/07/12 04:41 AM
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Please do get back to Pacheco. This bickering is boring.

#249278 14/07/12 02:11 PM
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I think it is safe to say that Pacheco will not be a top class player. Reason being he has been loaned out to a few clubs now and struggled to break into their teams so no chance of breaking into ours.

I think he will just be another le-tallec unless Rodgers can work some magic and turn this kids career around.

#249288 14/07/12 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
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Back on topic, if anyone had a choice who they think has more potential and deserves games, Pacheco, Sterling or Suso, it's gotta be the last two for me. So any game time Pacheco gets is wasted game time.


Ah - the old have a pop then self-righteously demand a change of topic. Ain't that a trick?

Carheex likes to wind-up and is 'provocative' as you put it in his own right. I can echo Craney's sentiment - I tried to get a lot of good fans to move over here after another site went under. A few came to have a look and were put off - some people just seem to have carte blanche to run roughshod - while others are squashed for lesser offenses. It seems to have got a bit better lately - but consistency and equity should be the watchword. As for trying to dredge up some old thread to publicly hang someone - that's absurd. Just the other day I had to read Carheex's slurs against Italians and I have a partner of Italian descent. Mote in the eye and all that eh?

But trying to play the 'peacemaker' role while taking sides just doesn't cut it Mate!


I didn't go for a change of topic, I tried to get back on topic. I also didn't take sides, for all I know Craney could BE Carheex. These are just names of people I don't know and I said from where I sat, both of them were at it. Craney wanted to argue that, Carheex didn't. You're right though, I'm certainly not a peacemaker.

And who was banned that didn't deserve it? I can only remember Murph, and it was because he volunteered (sort of). I'm guessing you're talking about yourself. I don't know why you were banned, so can't comment on the fairness.

You say Carheex is provocative. I imagine so, I see a lot of people having a 'pop' at him. Never had a problem myself. Perhaps because I don't take every disagreement as some sort of personal attack. For the record it was craney himself who brought up an old thread, nobody else.

As for the comments about people not coming to the forum, or even that Dunk is losing out on business, because craney won't go vip, due to Carheex etc, well the implication is clear, and it's a pretty low road to take in my opinion.

Now, can I talk about Pacheco again, or will I be called self-righteous and playing 'tricks'?


Of course you may old sport.... let's hope Dani makes the grade. We both just call things how we see them Mate - no probs there at all. I don't think Craney stays up at night worrying about Carheex - does a dog dream of the next day's fleas? Personally I have no stake in their fight - just recognise a serial irritant and hypocrite when I see one.

Anyway... back to football... what about Suso? Will he get a chance after his brill performance in the U19 tourney?


You're just as bad as craney - no wonder you're taking his side. Just when I thought the argument had died, you appear to stir things up. Good work.

Carheex #249289 14/07/12 03:51 PM
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Craney you have never been banned from a forum? You haven't lived!

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No unfortunately not, so from my point of view, its iffy if you have been "banned".

Why would you be banned without proper reason?

#249306 14/07/12 04:50 PM
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All bans hurt and most feel unjustified at the time. Precisely the reason why I like this forum is that there is a human element to the banning. Most other forums will cite some stupid rule that you allegedly agreed to on signing up . Either way its not for the users of the site to start bleating when they are banned. Most bans are hard to get round I find, not being an expert (I just get banned a lot) i find that you need to change internet provider to get back on or connect with a different pc, or use one of those IP changer things, which are pretty unreliable in my opinoin.

There are lots of reasons why 'innocent' people get banned, usually cos the moderator doesnt like them, this doesnt apply with this site as its not the moderators who do the banning

#249321 14/07/12 06:08 PM
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The problem is the English youth system, it should follow the Spanish and German system when they let their reserves play in a real competitive league, which give them something serious to play for and let them develop properly. In England they don't get the chance, that's why Spain and especially Germany seem to have so many good young players coming through.

#249328 14/07/12 06:29 PM
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yeah, that starts of in the Blue square league, then has the chance to move up to the championship if they're good enough. I reckin you'll see a lot more of our young players making the move to our first team.

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