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Re: Carroll is out of here Carheex #248540 12/07/12 02:52 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,543 Warsaw KingoftheKop Under 23 Player
KingoftheKop Under 23 Player Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,543 Warsaw	Originally Posted By: CarheeX Originally Posted By: Ged Papers this morning suggesting á 10 / 15 mil return to Newcastle... don't care what any other club pay fór him, but Newcastle can put their hand hand in their pocket if they want him back - we'd be á laughing stock otherwise. Ged, we already are! The sooner he goes, the better - for his sake and ours. No matter what he does, (unless he starts scoring 30 goals a season!), that £35m price tag is a big problem. It means that expectation and pressure is immense for him. And it means we have to get much more money than he's worth for him in order to push through a sale which will save some kind of face. The saga needs to end sooner rather than later. I disagree.. he's finally displaying the form/ability we paid over the odds for and now we want to get rid? I'd like to see him given another season to prove he can fit into Brendan Rogers' system. At the end of the day, if he fails to do that then I'll hold my hands up and admit that he should be moved on but it's not like his age is against him, he's still a young lad.

Re: Carroll is out of here Donut #248559 12/07/12 03:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair! Carheex 1st Team Squad
Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Originally Posted By: Ged Papers this morning suggesting á 10 / 15 mil return to Newcastle... don't care what any other club pay fór him, but Newcastle can put their hand hand in their pocket if they want him back - we'd be á laughing stock otherwise. I'd snatch their hand off for £10m! 4 goals in 35 games? that makes him worth about £6m at most. We'll get Borini for that £10m who will easily score more than 4 goals. happy days!

Re: Carroll is out of here Carheex #248561 12/07/12 03:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor cjkent 1st Team Squad
cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	how many of the them 35 games did he play more than 45 mins

Re: Carroll is out of here cjkent #248562 12/07/12 03:19 PM
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Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Originally Posted By: cjkent how many of the them 35 games did he play more than 45 mins Don't know. But I bet you a sack of cash that if we calculate his goals per minute ratio it's still pretty poor.

Re: Carroll is out of here Carheex #248567 12/07/12 03:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor cjkent 1st Team Squad
cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	so you in fact you 4 goals in 35 games is in fact misleading because you don't know who many of them 35 games he actually played serious minutes in i bet some of them games he had about 4 minutes play

Re: Carroll is out of here Carheex #248577 12/07/12 03:35 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair! Carheex 1st Team Squad
Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Stats for strikers at the top 7 clubs on 2011: http://www.eplindex.com/7625/premier-league-strikers-comparison-opta-stats.html Our friend Mr Carroll has the worst conversion rate and very nearly the lowest score in goals per minutes played. Are people wanting to keep him out of pity? Because for footballing reasons, retaining him makes no sense whatsoever.

Re: Carroll is out of here Carheex #248580 12/07/12 03:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,104 NZ Pops Under 23 Player
Pops Under 23 Player Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,104 NZ	But if the price isn't right is it worth getting rid of him? I'd say take 15mil for him, but no less. He could be better this season, and to be fair on him, he did show signs of progression later in the season.

Re: Carroll is out of here Carheex #248581 12/07/12 03:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor cjkent 1st Team Squad
cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	stats can be changed to suit any purpose If that table was right it would be drogba is just as bad a striker In fact his goals take long than Andy

Re: Carroll is out of here Carheex #248583 12/07/12 03:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,307 Ireland M Maxi88 Under 23 Player
Maxi88 Under 23 Player M Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,307 Ireland	What would his stats for the last 10 games hes played in be? These are the important ones as they are the ones he showed good form and energy.

Re: Carroll is out of here Maxi88 #248585 12/07/12 03:42 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor cjkent 1st Team Squad
cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	just shows you stats can show what people want them to show you wouldn't say the way drogba played in the champions league cup final that he was a waste

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