Quick Links: Liverpool FC Forum | ShoutBox | Podcast | KopTalk.TV | Upgrade to VIP forums

Register Log In

KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Just how bad would the PL be.....

Print Thread

Rate Thread

Page 2 of 4

1

2

3

4

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... Shanklylegend #244639 28/06/12 01:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor cjkent 1st Team Squad
cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	our youth game does need a shake up Just look at how the dutch develop their kids to see that

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... wilkij1975 #244640 28/06/12 01:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,913 HELL Porto Growler 1st Team Regular
Growler 1st Team Regular Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,913 HELL Porto	Originally Posted By: wilkij1975 At the momens it would be rubbish. We're going through what the Germans went through and have to take similar action to them. But we won't as the EPL is too rich and won't work with the FA. Lots of people say the EPL is the best league in the world but it's not. It's the richest maybe but far from the best. The standard of football is poor as has been shown by the European campaigns from this year. Look at what Athletic did to the scum and that's an eighth place Spanish team. Yes Chelsea won the champions league but they won it by not playing. The best players don't come here either. Ronaldo left, Alonso left, Fabregas left, Messi will never come, all of Man City's money couldn't tempt Kaka etc. Until the EPL and FA get together and sort out youth and reserve football and stop clubs being able to buy second rate foreigners instead of using young British players, we'll continue to gall behind. Summed up most beautifuly in just two sentences. Now see if you can come up with a solution in the same 2 breaths.

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... Growler #244642 28/06/12 02:04 PM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,307 Ireland M Maxi88 Under 23 Player
Maxi88 Under 23 Player M Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,307 Ireland	copy germany

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... Maxi88 #244643 28/06/12 02:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,913 HELL Porto Growler 1st Team Regular
Growler 1st Team Regular Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,913 HELL Porto	Originally Posted By: Maxi88 copy germany Intriguing and very good point actually. The Germans are apparently of similar generic make up to us Brits, so that does actually lead to the question as to why they are so radically different on the field of play. It's got to be down to teaching nursing tactics and training, simple as....ish....has it?

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... Growler #244645 28/06/12 02:16 PM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,307 Ireland M Maxi88 Under 23 Player
Maxi88 Under 23 Player M Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,307 Ireland	They had a complete rethink years ago and changed the coaching set up and its shown in the players they are producing like Ozil, Goetze Reus etc. Their league also appears to me to be very well run and no clubs appear to be in financial trouble. I think they have a form of wage cap in that wages can't be more than 50% of turnover or something similar and that is a great model to have. There's no reason why English and Irish players can't be as good (Ireland obviously on a reduced scale due to numbers) as physically they are able to compete with any countries so technical training appears to be what is lacking

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... Maxi88 #244647 28/06/12 02:21 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor cjkent 1st Team Squad
cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	Germany have changed so we have to the problem is the pl is way too powerful and don't care about the international game

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... cjkent #244657 28/06/12 03:09 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 212 Norway S Shanklylegend Under 16 Player
Shanklylegend Under 16 Player S Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 212 Norway	When it comes to youth setup. Could it be that the primary focus is to win games. It is conceivable no long-term. To win football games for an example with 13 u U12, U11, etc. All you need to do is to have a defender with the ability to kick the ball far and a quick striker to run on the ball. If one is to train the quality of the technical need to think long term. It does not matter if you do not win games at the youngest level. The goal must be to teach the players technique technique technique. Tactics should come when they have been about 14 years and start to play on a big court.

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... Shanklylegend #244658 28/06/12 03:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor cjkent 1st Team Squad
cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	yes we should teach like that but having watched my fair share of youth games in the UK easier said than done to say winning isn't everything

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... cjkent #244659 28/06/12 03:24 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 212 Norway S Shanklylegend Under 16 Player
Shanklylegend Under 16 Player S Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 212 Norway	Originally Posted By: cjkent yes we should teach like that but having watched my fair share of youth games in the UK easier said than done to say winning isn't everything haha .. yes you are right. It's just so focused on winning in Norway as well. Had I been coaching a younger team, I probably got parents on my neck. If a defensive player had the ball I would have applauded him when he was on the ball and did something constructive with the ball instead of kicking it far up the pitch. My son is 3 years now begins to play next year. When they need a coach for sure .. haha

Re: Just how bad would the PL be..... Shanklylegend #244660 28/06/12 04:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,160 waking up Brian Under 23 Player
Brian Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,160 waking up	The EPL (exception being LFC of course) is the most over-rated in the world and the blame lies squarely with the FA who promote same to hell and high-water with complete disregard for the national team and the youth. There are other countries who follow suit and their national temas are a joke, and yet they will argue that their "PL" is the best there is. Afraid the rot comes from the top, FIFA. and its about time we start weeding out the old buggers who don't have a clue about the modern game, only about lining their own pockets. waking up from deep slumber

Page 2 of 4

1

2

3

4

Moderated by KopTalk Team

Link Copied to Clipboard

Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.

Advertisements

Liverpool FC Discussion

Jude Law set to play Bill Shankly in Liverpool drama series
by Dunk - 16/10/26 08:07 PM

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.1