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We need a manager that is not sentimental and who will see the squad for what it is. Players like Jay Spearing and even Martin Kelly are one dimensional. Way back when Koptalk started I said we will never win the League with Jamie Carragher and I stick by it.

We have a bunch of other also runs in the team that should be axed. Look at teams like Newcastle and Swansea and even Blackpool the season before last. They played without fear they play to their strength and they had a couple of actual footballers.

It doesn't matter if you worth 100 Million or 1 Million. If you as a player have the talent and you have a manager that know how to use that talent for the greater good of the TEAM. Then only will we as Liverpool deserve to be called champions or challengers again.

For now we are a sad shadow of what used to be a great team. Yes everyone on here calls for Benitez and AVB but I don't really care. Both of these individuals are flawed.

We need to look at our own model, decide on a way forward, strategy, playing style, call it what you want and stick by it. A five year plan a clear vision and backing from the owners. A manager is needed that will not be afraid to give the youngsters a chance not just the British youngsters. We desperately need a manager who will take his blinkers off. Choose the best team available to him and build on it.

Only then will we reach the heights we used too.

first fan i've heard slate martin kelly. imo one of the best prospects at the club. constantly played out of position but still a threat going forward. the lad has talent

Martin Kelly 'one dimesnsional'.....give over chap!

i dont think he watches enough games lol

nurse.... nurse....to ward 10....

to slate of Kelly just shows he does watch the same games i do lol

One dimensional might have been the wrong word. Which of the 7 teams above us currently will have Martin Kelly in their first team? Look at Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester United and lastly Manchester City... anyone on here think that he will make those teams. Jeez no wonder we are where are.

Sadly enough I have watched about 90% of the games this season and sometimes I even recorded those games. Been following Liverpool since I was six that is a good 30 years now. How sad does that make me?

With satelitte tv on the African continent I've been following games and watching since 1995 with the great technological marvel that is instant replay and HDPVR.

Oh and to add I was banned from this site because of one of my post I assume. Or some obscure reason don't really know don't really care. First time I registered was way back in 1997 fvck now I'm depressed. Note to self: you are getting old.

maybe but Kelly is very young most of those teams have experienced older full backs

not a fair compare really

That's a bit severe. So a guy of 22 is supposed to depose vastly experienced players like Bosingwa(29), Ivanovic (28), and Sagna (29), or newcomers like Richards (23), Rafael (21) or Jones (20)? Considering that Kelly just got picked for England ahead of Richards, and Rafael is a liability, Kelly is hardly in anyone's shadow, never mind that he's a centre back. He's at least on the same level as Jones (who is admittedly younger), but came free (where Jones cost United at least 16m).

Jeez, where have you been?