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#23308 07/12/09 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
I agree about the hypocrisy. So many of you bitch about youngsters not getting a chance, pacheco and nemeth should apparently be playing. Yet if they were playing, after a run fo bad games you'd bitch about them and say they shouldn't be playing. You can't have it both ways.


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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
I agree about the hypocrisy. So many of you bitch about youngsters not getting a chance, pacheco and nemeth should apparently be playing. Yet if they were playing, after a run fo bad games you'd bitch about them and say they shouldn't be playing. You can't have it both ways.


i agree that you can't have it both ways. but i think each and every player is a different situation and just because you want more youth players to get a chance it doesn't mean that you don't have the right to criticise other young players. but what you have to do is understanding that a player like insua is young and at a stage in his career where he's learning a lot...so you have to have a bit more patience.

personally i don't think that he's performing well at the moment but that doesn't mean that i can't have the opinion that pacheco or amoo should be given a chance.


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Lets be honest there are quite a few that aren't performing well at the moment either. Gerrard isn't exactly setting the league on fire but i don't see anybody calling for him to be dropped?

Rather than criticize the young lad maybe we should be encouraging him?


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murph i have been calling for gerrard to be dropped for ages lol

personally i think insua lacks a bit of pace, yes, but he has plenty of ability .... hard to judge him when he is playing as part of an unsettled defence, an unsettled defence that is performing badly ..... give the lad a break, he is still a better bet than dossena! and aurelio has exactly the same weaknesses but can't play half a match without getting injured

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Insua must be doing something wrong. Getting up for that header in the Derby, being part of a defence that hasn't conceded in 3 games, currently best left back at the club.

I think it's time for Insua to demand Rafa drops him.

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Originally Posted By: Rafa Out
Fookin hypocrosy reigns supreme here.


Agree with you, but as i started this thread i'll justify my logic.

The lad has potential but it is hard to judge how much at this time. If the team is playing badly and the lad is not performing. He should be dropped and played in the ressies to regain confidence. He is not going to be able to score his way to confidence. From an early age, Gerrard and Carragher were impressive. They went straight into the first team and looked comfortbale, Insua doesn't. Fair enough nationallity might be an issue but the lad simply isn't good enough. Johnson attacks that right wing with venom, Insua is scared to go near full backs. I know LB/RB are there to defend, BUT the best form of defence is attack and we need someone who is quick, agile and strong. It is not hypocritcal to be critising him, it is an opinion. My opinion is that Insua looks out of his depth in that role.

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red2153 you must have watched a different Carragher to me in the early years of his career... HE WAS [oops] (or should I say inexperienced? )

THE PLAYERS HAVE TO LEARN THEIR TRADE. The problems come when you try to blood to many kids together (as Souness did)

Give the lad the time he needs to develop, he will prove to be world class.

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i m starting to feel that Benitez can assemble a good defence...
or in other sense a good defender coach.mascherano excelled.but any striker...it would have been a massive massive gift by Rafa to LFC.
other than torres im talking about.


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i hate to say it but i agree on carra - he was not good enough until he was switched to centre half (by Houllier not Rafa!)

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houllier had hyypia and henchoz as a top class pairing - why would he break that up?

secondly carra hit his peak as a player under rafa, he should be better at his peak than before!

so really neither point is worthy of note

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