KopTalk

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 5 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,955
H
Under 23 Player
Under 23 Player
H Offline
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,955
yep, but they are kenny fans so you have to let them be mate.


I will listen, only if your answer contains wisdom



Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,955
H
Under 23 Player
Under 23 Player
H Offline
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,955
Keagie I take it that your happy with kenny going then, but would you have picked roberto as a potential new boss?


I will listen, only if your answer contains wisdom



Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 270
Under 16 Player
Under 16 Player
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 270
Originally Posted By: mikeymay69
I think his handling of the press was a big factor, not forgetting the league position, he showed his time out of management
by his ham fisted attempts with the press. You could tell the way he started out...cheeky chappy, smart arse answers...almost smug really.
I had the feeling back then that should things go a bit awry the now fawning press corps would turn like milk in the sun.
But to be fair really ..they didn't.
He did it himself....visibly irked by the simplest of questions, at the most obvious of questions he had a 'how dare you question me' attitude.
It was quite hard to watch him at times...we all knew the results were bad....but his reluctance to face the music after each horror show
was cringing.
This is all aside from the Suarez affair which understandably was very hard to handle which ever way you look at it,
he had to stand up for his Star player...innocent until proven guilty (same with John Terry) but the message was not one of innocence
it was one of old school batten down the hatches....siege mentality...never facing the ultimate outcome of a 'guilty' verdict
and thus digging the hole deeper by the 'unproven' 'one mans word against anothers' defence which may have it's merits
but is not as easy apply to 'modern day' racism incidents. This again showed 'out of touch' skills after such a long spell
away from frontline management. Overreliance on and the need to prove the 'you'll never walk alone' mantra evident.
To say he didn't need this on his plate is a huge understatement.
Having stuck his neck out with such a high profile expensive signing as Carroll...as well as the also rans he backed
for such large money, he was a dead man walking once this all failed to ignite.
Suarez was in himself an adequate replacement for Torres...so why not pocket the difference...even momentarily...thus showing some savvy in the
marketplace. I think he did not trust the fans to follow his lead ,fearing something of a backlash for being the one to sell Torres without truly
believing that Suarez would fill his boots, so he felt like he needed more to parade as swag.
Pressure must do strange things to even the most hardened in such circumstances, but for sure....Newcastle saw them coming...and widened
the road to accommodate the egos approaching.
The opening games at home set the tone for a season long campaign that once promised richly but petered out poorly.
Highlights aside, and there were many, away wins at 'top four' oppositions, league cup trophy in the cabinet, fab FA cup run....
but since the turn of the new year,cup runs aside, our form has been dismal to say the least.
These Players...this Squad ..have let him done badly.
These new signings may go on to better things, 'bed in' so to speak but they must look at themselves as professionals.
I do think he could have reaped the benefits next season but it's a results driven business and Kenny knew that, it was etched on his face
with every passing disaster, each hit off the post, each open chance missed.
King Kenny resumed the throne when the club was in crisis, inspired a semi revival of confidence that must be built on.
No doubt...still the legend he always was and always will be, he should be involved at the club somehow, boardroom level perhaps, who knows.

We now know for sure that the new owners mean business, that in itself is a crumb of comfort from the Kings table


Good observation - well written.


.
Red 'till I'm Dead - WobblyWilly
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 15,010
1st Team Regular
1st Team Regular
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 15,010
Originally Posted By: WobblyWilly
Originally Posted By: mikeymay69
I think his handling of the press was a big factor, not forgetting the league position, he showed his time out of management
by his ham fisted attempts with the press. You could tell the way he started out...cheeky chappy, smart arse answers...almost smug really.
I had the feeling back then that should things go a bit awry the now fawning press corps would turn like milk in the sun.
But to be fair really ..they didn't.
He did it himself....visibly irked by the simplest of questions, at the most obvious of questions he had a 'how dare you question me' attitude.
It was quite hard to watch him at times...we all knew the results were bad....but his reluctance to face the music after each horror show
was cringing.
This is all aside from the Suarez affair which understandably was very hard to handle which ever way you look at it,
he had to stand up for his Star player...innocent until proven guilty (same with John Terry) but the message was not one of innocence
it was one of old school batten down the hatches....siege mentality...never facing the ultimate outcome of a 'guilty' verdict
and thus digging the hole deeper by the 'unproven' 'one mans word against anothers' defence which may have it's merits
but is not as easy apply to 'modern day' racism incidents. This again showed 'out of touch' skills after such a long spell
away from frontline management. Overreliance on and the need to prove the 'you'll never walk alone' mantra evident.
To say he didn't need this on his plate is a huge understatement.
Having stuck his neck out with such a high profile expensive signing as Carroll...as well as the also rans he backed
for such large money, he was a dead man walking once this all failed to ignite.
Suarez was in himself an adequate replacement for Torres...so why not pocket the difference...even momentarily...thus showing some savvy in the
marketplace. I think he did not trust the fans to follow his lead ,fearing something of a backlash for being the one to sell Torres without truly
believing that Suarez would fill his boots, so he felt like he needed more to parade as swag.
Pressure must do strange things to even the most hardened in such circumstances, but for sure....Newcastle saw them coming...and widened
the road to accommodate the egos approaching.
The opening games at home set the tone for a season long campaign that once promised richly but petered out poorly.
Highlights aside, and there were many, away wins at 'top four' oppositions, league cup trophy in the cabinet, fab FA cup run....
but since the turn of the new year,cup runs aside, our form has been dismal to say the least.
These Players...this Squad ..have let him done badly.
These new signings may go on to better things, 'bed in' so to speak but they must look at themselves as professionals.
I do think he could have reaped the benefits next season but it's a results driven business and Kenny knew that, it was etched on his face
with every passing disaster, each hit off the post, each open chance missed.
King Kenny resumed the throne when the club was in crisis, inspired a semi revival of confidence that must be built on.
No doubt...still the legend he always was and always will be, he should be involved at the club somehow, boardroom level perhaps, who knows.

We now know for sure that the new owners mean business, that in itself is a crumb of comfort from the Kings table


Good observation - well written.



i think regarding press conferences, what is being overlooked is that dalglish was directed by the head of communications in those situations, so he wasnt just rolling out their saying what he pleased.


Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.

"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,460
Muj Offline
1st Team Squad
1st Team Squad
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,460
read somewhere that kenny rejected the 8m compensation he was offered and suggested it to use for transfers instead.how true is that.anyone else heard that?

classy act if true


Steven Gerrard: Heartbeat of LFC.


football is fuckingg cruel
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
1st Team Regular
1st Team Regular
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
Originally Posted By: Mujtaba
read somewhere that kenny rejected the 8m compensation he was offered and suggested it to use for transfers instead.how true is that.anyone else heard that?

classy act if true


I doubt this is true but if its the case then fair play. Doubt it tho.


Back to Back World Champions baby!
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 27,628
Liverpool Legend
Liverpool Legend
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 27,628
If Kenny has waived £8m in compensation for the club to use on transfer fees its pretty dumb of him. He should have taken the money and gave it to local charities rather than give it to a Boston millionaire.

Its not true though is it? Another silly king kenny story.


IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,955
H
Under 23 Player
Under 23 Player
H Offline
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,955
among many


I will listen, only if your answer contains wisdom



Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 27,628
Liverpool Legend
Liverpool Legend
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 27,628
Lets remind ourselves is this really the befitting of a Liverpool manager? FSG later forced him to apologise.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-LlwzIFhkA&feature=related


IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
1st Team Regular
1st Team Regular
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
If I was in his position I would of ran with that 8m, they can fund their own signings!


Back to Back World Champions baby!
Page 5 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Moderated by  KopTalk Team 

Link Copied to Clipboard
ShoutChat
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
Advertisements
Liverpool FC Discussion