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Those 10 million pound corners have been great this year........

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I went for Adam and Skrtel.

Adam was an easy decision, but player of the year was a flip up between Skrtel & Suarez. The reason I went for Skrtel was that, although he started the season poorly enough, he grew as soon as he started getting played with Agger instead of Carra. Suarez has been really good this season, but the thing that's let him down is his finishing.

He's into double figures, but he should have double the tally he already has! He may be close to the top strikers in the PL in terms of skill and ability, but he isn't anywhere near them in the goalscoring charts, and at the end of the day, that's what we expect from our strikers - goals. At the other end of the pitch, Skrtel has been a major part of us having the 3rd best defence in the Premiership, so I'd say overall, he's performed his duties better than Suarez, so I've gone with him.


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went for adam and agger

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Charlie Adam is probably thinking to himself, "I have more assists than any other LFC player and yet these clowns think I'm the worst player in the team!" Wake up, guy! You're sh!t!

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I am absolutely shocked to see Adam leading instead of Hendersen in that catagory. First of all Adam cost us 7m, basically half of what Hendersen has cost us, he has more goals and assists then Hendersen, in fact he has more than Downing too. He started nicely, had a terrible spell but is no way the Flop of the year.


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I am absolutely shocked to see Adam leading instead of Hendersen in that catagory. First of all Adam cost us 7m, basically half of what Hendersen has cost us, he has more goals and assists then Hendersen, in fact he has more than Downing too. He started nicely, had a terrible spell but is no way the Flop of the year.


Have to disagree here. Adam was bought for set pieces, and he took penalties for Blackpool. Come January he had demonstrated an utter lack of ability at kicking a stationary ball, including missing the target in each of his 3 penalty kicks (maybe one was saved, can't quite remember). If he can't do that, his speciality, then what can he do? Henderson by comparison has been played out of position practically all season, and actually does good things on the pitch more often than Adam. He's not been excellent, which is why he finds himself on the flop list, but Adam wouldn't get into the reserves right now.

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I am absolutely shocked to see Adam leading instead of Hendersen in that catagory. First of all Adam cost us 7m, basically half of what Hendersen has cost us, he has more goals and assists then Hendersen, in fact he has more than Downing too. He started nicely, had a terrible spell but is no way the Flop of the year.


Have to disagree here. Adam was bought for set pieces, and he took penalties for Blackpool. Come January he had demonstrated an utter lack of ability at kicking a stationary ball, including missing the target in each of his 3 penalty kicks (maybe one was saved, can't quite remember). If he can't do that, his speciality, then what can he do? Henderson by comparison has been played out of position practically all season, and actually does good things on the pitch more often than Adam. He's not been excellent, which is why he finds himself on the flop list, but Adam wouldn't get into the reserves right now.


That's just your opinion though. Whilst his set pieces might have caught the eye, no decent manager in the world would sign someone to occupy a first team place just for their set pieces. At least we know Adam 'can' produce quality from set pieces even though it hasn't worked out for him this season. Henderson on the other hand......what 'can' he do which any of us have seen on a regular basis????? He cost twice as much and has contributed much less - FLOP of the season by a country mile!

Oh, and can we stop making excuses for henderson saying he is always getting played out of position? He regularly played at right midfield for coventry and sunderland - he can play both rightmid and centremid - neither very well mind you, but those are his positions. Putting him on the right instead of the middle hardly makes him a fish out of water - if he was asked to play in goal I could understand the problem. If Hodgson had signed him would there be as much support or excuses for him? Hmmmm, I wonder......

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I would say Adam for the worst but jay spearing not much higher

Maybe i am still mad from the cup final but he is a championship player in reality

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Don't know why Reina is up there when Carroll and Downing should definitely be! Reina has had an average season but not a flop season. Carroll has had less than 5 actually good games. The rest just look good in comparison to earlier sh!te he's produced.

Biggest flop for me is Downing. Because I see him as genuinely flopping. I thought Carroll and Henderson were both wrong signings and didn't expect much and they didn't produce much. But downing, you would have expected to come straight into the team and chip in with goals and assists. No reason for him to have been so sh!te. He for me, is the biggest flop.

Player of the year...well it would have been Skrtel by a country mile but he hasn't been very good recently. Really suffered from a spell of poor form. He still wins it, but maybe doesn't run away with it like he could have.

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I am absolutely shocked to see Adam leading instead of Hendersen in that catagory. First of all Adam cost us 7m, basically half of what Hendersen has cost us, he has more goals and assists then Hendersen, in fact he has more than Downing too. He started nicely, had a terrible spell but is no way the Flop of the year.


Have to disagree here. Adam was bought for set pieces, and he took penalties for Blackpool. Come January he had demonstrated an utter lack of ability at kicking a stationary ball, including missing the target in each of his 3 penalty kicks (maybe one was saved, can't quite remember). If he can't do that, his speciality, then what can he do? Henderson by comparison has been played out of position practically all season, and actually does good things on the pitch more often than Adam. He's not been excellent, which is why he finds himself on the flop list, but Adam wouldn't get into the reserves right now.


That's just your opinion though. Whilst his set pieces might have caught the eye, no decent manager in the world would sign someone to occupy a first team place just for their set pieces. At least we know Adam 'can' produce quality from set pieces even though it hasn't worked out for him this season. Henderson on the other hand......what 'can' he do which any of us have seen on a regular basis????? He cost twice as much and has contributed much less - FLOP of the season by a country mile!

Oh, and can we stop making excuses for henderson saying he is always getting played out of position? He regularly played at right midfield for coventry and sunderland - he can play both rightmid and centremid - neither very well mind you, but those are his positions. Putting him on the right instead of the middle hardly makes him a fish out of water - if he was asked to play in goal I could understand the problem. If Hodgson had signed him would there be as much support or excuses for him? Hmmmm, I wonder......


Yes, that is my opinion. You will have a hard time convincing anyone Adam was signed for his dynamic play in the centre of a midfield that got relegated, and who was fairly pivotal in many of the goals scored by their opposition due to his lack of defensive ability.

Henderson did indeed play on the right at his other clubs. Well done for spotting that. Did it ever looked like he belonged there while playing for Liverpool? Not once. Yet he was consistently picked there ahead of players like Kuyt and Bellamy. If you're going to use the wrong tool, don't blame the tool, I say.

And what on earth are you doing bringing Hodgson up? You want him back, I guess? No one has said that Kenny was right to play Henderson on the right (except you, ironically), and most people have criticised him for it. But you're carrying on like we blindly supported the manager? Or maybe you think that Poulsen and Konchesky were hard done by and should still be at the club?

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