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wish all the money from the players sold is used all for buying /loan new players...mine will be...

sold:
1.lucas - useless = 5m
2.babel - not suits english game = 5m
3.dossena - same as babbel = 5m
4.agger - injury junkie = 5m
5.voronin - the clown = free (his wages can useful)

nett = 20m++

I'm not a fan of masch and riera, they could be sold for combined 35m, but i wouldn't sell them in jan, here's why:

1.they're not bad players (like above players), masch tough in the middle, riera still a good cover
2.the money will useful, but sell in jan means too many players out and in, not good coz need to adapted each other again
3.they still can be sold next season

5 players out, but we have 20m (assumed all used to bring new players)
1.simon kjaer (replace carra/skrtel) = 10m
2.elia/onzil (pacey player will bring hype in team) = 8m
2.3 or 4 loans will be good, I prefer ageing experienced players, below are the list of players that's popped in my head that is available for loan:

defender:
kaladze,ujfalusi,jankulovski,heinze,raul bravo

midfielder:
reyes,simao,altintop,senna,viera,quaresma,van der vaart,de la red

striker:
huntelaar,krkic,suazo,chevanton,nistlerooy,

we need take 3-4 loans, they're not the best, but i believe they will be good covers, and their wages are in the range of babel n voronin etc

what a waste of time and money that would be - we don't need loans - we need a settled defence and to give youngsters a chance to be used as back ups rather than bringing in more dross that isn't good enough ..... the kids have to be given a chance to prove themselves some time

As ive said. If we can adleast get Van der Vaart on Loan until the end of the season with the chance to sign him in the summer and pherhaps sign the Dane. That would be good bussiness.

yep, that's a pity....what a team arsenal would have if they got both him and mesut ozil...

i don't understand why we weren't in for ozil last summer. we could probably have got him for £15m or so and that would have been a far better option than the aquilani deal. not that i doubt aquilani's talent but this season will be over long before he will be able to have an impact on it...

Babel and Voronin are prime candidates to be shipped out. IMHO, moving the monster out now is a bad move. He is one of the leaders in the team. This season he has been asked to do too much to cover the loss of Alonso and mop up all the loose balls. When Aquilani settles in and starts to dictate the play, we will see the Monster back to this very best. Ironically, like Alonso, he is one player that you notice when he is not playing. If he ever consider selling him, he is going to be worth more after the WorldCup.

Simon Kjaer is a very good shout as is Arda Turan. I like up and coming players like Mathias de Federico and Eden Hazard. Elia is going to be better than Babel but he is also a huge risk and could go either way.

IF we could afford a Silva or Gourcuff, that would be ideal.

I am making a case for Lucas. The boy is improving and although he is far from being a world beater, he is making small steady strides in right direction. He does not offer much going forward but in the last few games, you can see him making MORE forward passes and making his presence felt around the pitch. The fans are bitching less about him and starting to understand him as a player. And the big plus is that he has a great attitude and is willing to work hard. He took the criticism and he is stronger for it. I wish him the best of luck and hope he can add goals to his game.

the problem we have now is that rafa is now surrounded completely by yes men - he has no one to say to him that things aren't working and it is time to change them ...... all he has now are people to sympathise with him and tell him how unlucky we were ...... there is no one left to stand up to him as they were all drummed out of the club one by one

like all dictators rafa needs someone to give an opposite viewpoint - look at clough for instance, things went well while he had taylor alongside him to give him a reality check ..... once taylor was gone all he had left was sycophants and no one to stand up to him at the club

i fear for the future of the club as the man is far too stubborn to make the changes needed ..... that would be like accepting he is wrong and he will never do that on his own accord

yep i agree with you trepie...i've said it before, rafas' stubbornness has cost us very much. the man is not blind, he can see what we're seeing but he's just to proud and stubborn to do it in another way...

come on then what team would you pick?

i would have monster and steve g in the centre and have benny behind the loan striker.

Well at least try that for one game, cannot be any worse surely

Then when aquaman is fit then move steven back to behind the striker.