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on a big serious note 8th or 9th or even lower in the league and the carling cup i dont think is enough after over 100 million spent , i believe the decision taken this summer will make or break the club the decisions taken by ayre,werner and henry need to be taken in the interestes of the club and its business not the fans who are riddled with sentiment which is in my opinion slowly killing our club , if the correct decisions are not made it could be the end of LFC as a top club forever and LFC will become a mid table team for years to come . Exactly - spoken by a man who knows Liverpool FC inside and out. I agree with your analysis unless changes are made this summer Liverpool will remain where they are. Other clubs are moving forward at a faster rate than us we have no known public plans to move forward. An average squad and a poor to average manager. I am sure some will cling to any small hopes of optinisim but that is masking the very real problems the club has. I am very very concerned at the current position of Liverpool FC. I don't agree that other clubs are moving forward at a faster rate than us. The entire league appears to be moving backwards quite frankly - that United could finish with 90 points with their present squad is proof enough. We've not progressed as we'd like, but then nor have Chelsea (no top 4), Arsenal (1-man team), Spurs (good loan signings!), or United (recall Scholes from retirement or bust), and I would hardly say Newcastle is built on solid financial foundations.
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All of those clubs have much higher revenue than us and all have new stadia or plans to do so. Chelsea have announced plans to move to a 60k seater at battersy. We are mid table has beens. No amount of baseless optimism can change that.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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All of those clubs have much higher revenue than us and all have new stadia or plans to do so. Chelsea have announced plans to move to a 60k seater at battersy. We are mid table has beens. No amount of baseless optimism can change that. And no amount of baseless pessimism can ignore that Arsenal and Spurs invest very little in their squads, that Chelsea was always made of money, and that United have the best manager in the league. I fail to see how anything has changed now that we've understood Shankly Stadium will not be a reality unless a 3rd party invests in LFC. Our task is to get into the Champions' League, and Newcastle have shown that it remains possible.
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lets look at the start of the season dalglish given money to buy players he gets all the players he wants on a bit of a high from the slight recovery from the season before no club turmoil like what hodgson had , everything all put in place to do well and its not worked he has failed , yes carling cup great nice and gets credit for that ,but after another boob by him at wembley against chelsea and the unbelievably dire league season just how can this season and dalglish get defended by anyone when if the manager was not kenny dalglish he would probably have the vast majority fans on his back and possibly would have been sacked by now , LFC needs to change and the changes need to be the right ones as if wrong ones are made it could be the end of LFC as a top premier league team .
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I just laugh when I hear Kenny lovers spout that he needs time to rebuild, yeah give him 10 years and we'll be unbeatable.
Take Spurs, Redknapp took over with them bottom of the league, within 18months they were in CL! 2 years ago Newcastle were a championship team and where are they now? Paul Lambert took over Norwich after stuffing them 6-0 less than 3 years ago and look what he has achieved on a shoestring, no 5 year plans there me thinks!
All have spent alotless money than our dear leader has blown! When I listened to a report on Villa v Bolton last week, Villa dominated the first half couldn't score and lost the game, it was like listening to a report for us. Take Villa in 3 years they have lost their best 4 players, Barry/Milner/Young oh and Downing, a total of £80m they have spent £20m on Bent, roughly £60m in sales, then take us we have a net spend of £60m, £120m difference and yet we are 10pts better off! THAT IS TRULY SHOCKING!
If you asked Kenny to sell Suarez, Gerrard, Lucas and say Agger and told him to bring in kids (like Mcleish) where would we be?
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I want some of what your taking..Where have you been for the last year
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Roberto Martinez for me, te lads a proper gaffer but he isnt te fancy name so i canee see him in charge ta raas
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All of those clubs have much higher revenue than us and all have new stadia or plans to do so. Chelsea have announced plans to move to a 60k seater at battersy. We are mid table has beens. No amount of baseless optimism can change that. And no amount of baseless pessimism can ignore that Arsenal and Spurs invest very little in their squads, that Chelsea was always made of money, and that United have the best manager in the league. I fail to see how anything has changed now that we've understood Shankly Stadium will not be a reality unless a 3rd party invests in LFC. Our task is to get into the Champions' League, and Newcastle have shown that it remains possible. The stadium will be announced in the summer, all investment is in place and we are working with postive futures to build a hotel and leisure complex. Positive futures offers young people of North Liverpool genuine career training and opportunities in the leisure industry - learning trades which are transferable. LFC believe this would benefit the community significantly more than just investing in infra structure(tube station + housing) and the council have so far agreed. We have been waiting for the Mayor appointment and should ratify the proposal(although Joe anderson has been pushing heavilly for the joint stadia). Basically we cannot really fix our position with the elite without the new ground, If and when FSG want to sell only the new ground and it's income would be enough to gain sufficient return on their investment. To be frank FSG and its investors only realise a project when it offers a return in excess of 300%, curently valued at 600mil (100%above outlay) the job has been pleasing. However to gain that 1.5-2billion mark we need a new stadia. Stanleys point is valid that we can peak and trough around the champs league with every 3-5yr having great success, but to maintain a succesful commercial enterprise the stadium is essential. Only 6-8 clubs can foster such global appeal and we are the only one of those without a stadium to compliment our position. 400mil of which 200mil will come frome external sources is a no brainer and will happen.
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beginning to sound like not such a bad shout
I will listen, only if your answer contains wisdom
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Bredrin... martinez is a bad man ta raas
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