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rubbish is OK and i get your point and you always back it up with reasonable argument

I was talking about certain posters than get banned

You should not base anything on one season?

If a player has a poor season does it make him a poor player?
If a manager has a poor few months does it make him a poor manager?

If he wins two cups does that make him a poor manager?

maybe but if he finishes 10th in the league that don't make him great either

I would say average under them markers, plus we haven't won two cups yet lol

fingers and everything crossed buddy

I would say with two cups its an barley ok season

With one is average at best

Neat season i expect much better but the team does need drastic changes

I think winning two cups will be a great season. We have not won two trophies in a season for around a decade. Might have to agree to disagree on this.

I am not sure about drastic changes, but quality in certain areas.

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Johnson, Agger, Matin, Enrique
???, Lucas, Gerrard, Downing
Suarez, ???

You can argue about Downing yes or no. But the other 8 players should be good enough in there position for a top four place. We have the likes of Carroll, Henderson, Kuyt, Bellamy, Raheem (maybe), Kelly, Flangan, Shelvey pushing the first team.

i still think on paper than man utd man city Chelsea spurs and arsenal are stronger

well i don't think we are competing with the likes of United and City yet!

But i think our team with improvement can compete with Arsenal. Also it could be a hard summer for spurs if they do not get into the top four, and even if they do the likes of Modric might still want to leave.

maybe but i still say our bench is good enough and we still lack players in some key postions

In my experience more often than not it does, there are exceptions of course but normally what you see over a season is what you get. Dalglish can never get away from the money he has wasted on a colossal scale. But I think they will retain him because the owners are not clear what they are doing with the club. Any new manager will want to know plans and probably £150m to rebuild the team. That’s not going to happen and so Kenny remains in charge and these fan discussions will carry on for another year and you mark my words we will still be mid table. The more we delay the more expensive the rebuild will be. I believe our owners don’t have the stomach for that and so bye bye LFC as a top club and Kenny will be the man who lead us there just as he destroyed us in his first spell. It will happen as sure as night follows day.