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Are we really playing better than the scum, citeh, arse, spurs (at times), chavs and to a certain extent barcodes?
No I don't think so.
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I think Kenny is a good manager, I feel the run in the cups has proved that.
The league situation isn't good, no-where near good enough, but we are dominating games, hitting the bar countless times and generally playing good football.
I think this has exposed some weakness in the team, which will be addressed in the summer. mostly a proven finisher, and some quality on the wings. I honestly don't think another manager could have done much better, it can't possibly be Kenny's fault we hit the bar 4-5 times a game.
Tactics are working, because we are creating chances, looking tight at the back(when carra isn't playing)
Reina has let in a lot of goals he should have saved this season, this has been recognised by the owners and they have mad changes for to the coach.
As a liverpool fan this season, I have had some brilliant times, being at Anfield when we knocked United out the cup, beating chelsea, city- Winning the carling up. With a FA cup to look forward to, in previous years it has been CONSTANT RIPPING MY HAIR OUT. I don't think things are "fine" or "perfect" nor am I a "kenny lover" Given the circumstances I think he deserves another season, and most of all deserves our support I totally agree, well said.
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I's certainly not putting a gloss on it, I am for the most part agreeing with you.
I just think the prem has exposed weakness, which isn't solely down to the manager. I think your foolish to think the return to the top 4 would be achieved in one season, taking into consideration how bad our team was, and how much the teams around us have improved. We didnt just expect a return to the top 4 but we wanted improvement in our league position and that hasnt happened despite a massive amount being spent on new recruits. This recruitment drive has in general been an absolute disaster and any other manager would not still be in the job. Lets look at how the teams around us have improved: Everton-No money spent and sold their best player in Arteta. Arsenal sold two of their best players and have hardly spent anything but still miles clear of us. KD needs to be removed from his job at the end of the season and no carling cup win can paper over the cracks of the poor job he has done.
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are you suggesting the following is true:
if a manager can manage a small club to mid table, he could do more with a big club?
because it aint true.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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I think Kenny is a good manager, I feel the run in the cups has proved that.
The league situation isn't good, no-where near good enough, but we are dominating games, hitting the bar countless times and generally playing good football.
I think this has exposed some weakness in the team, which will be addressed in the summer. mostly a proven finisher, and some quality on the wings. I honestly don't think another manager could have done much better, it can't possibly be Kenny's fault we hit the bar 4-5 times a game.
Tactics are working, because we are creating chances, looking tight at the back(when carra isn't playing)
Reina has let in a lot of goals he should have saved this season, this has been recognised by the owners and they have mad changes for to the coach.
As a liverpool fan this season, I have had some brilliant times, being at Anfield when we knocked United out the cup, beating chelsea, city- Winning the carling up. With a FA cup to look forward to, in previous years it has been CONSTANT RIPPING MY HAIR OUT. I don't think things are "fine" or "perfect" nor am I a "kenny lover" Given the circumstances I think he deserves another season, and most of all deserves our support How can you say no other manager could do better than Kenny? Looking at some of the teams we're losing or drawing against at home, and it's clear that the majority of these sides don't have the quality of player we have, nowhere near so in fact. Their managers are almost ALL doing a better job with weaker sides. There still seems to be this absurd notion that we have a mid table side. We don't. It's top 6. Last year it was a top 6 side, and the year before that we had a top 6 side, and generally before that we had a top 4 side. Our squad is stronger this year than last year, so we're still top 6. A lot of our players are getting dog's abuse for what is essentially Kenny's fault. Because they're being played out of position, getting games then dropped for no reason, being asked to do a job they clearly are not suited for, and just general weird defensive tactics at times from the manager. Don't be fooled by Kenny. We have some very good players. A lot of managers could have done a LOT better with the squad we have. All but one of those managers have been given time and patience to build a team and a squad for the long term though. With the exception of Pardew.
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I don't think thats true recognize to show patience you need to show progress and no manager at any other club would survive wasting the money Kenny has. FSG have showed with the sacking of Commoli all is not well. Commolli could not have been divorrced from the Kenny regime. I cannot ever recall a Liverpool manager who has failed to the extent Hodgson and Dalglish has even souness who lets not forget was picking up Kenny's mess.
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This season is without a shadow of a doubt the best season in our last 3.
1) we won something
2) we got into europe(all be it europa)
3) FA cup final
I don't see any reasonable argument to this? at the end of the day position in the league is pointless. What matters is top four, top six, and winning the damn thing.
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This season is without a shadow of a doubt the best season in our last 3.
1) we won something
2) we got into europe(all be it europa)
3) FA cup final
I don't see any reasonable argument to this? at the end of the day position in the league is pointless. What matters is top four, top six, and winning the damn thing.
That argument is flawed the cups are a one off the league is your true progress. Kenny is failing and the carling cup is a fig leaf to hide underlying failure. Do you really think this side will get top 4 next season? if so what will change from now?
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Well of course it's important, but I'm sure you get my point.. that the Europe places are what we are really in it for. The club doesn't receive any more money or credit for finishing 7th rather than 8th for example
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Do you disagree then Stan?
would you rather top 6, winning nothing?
or finish 8th and win carling and FA?
and no, I don't think we will finish top 4 next season, we have been far from good enough. We need 2-3 key players in the summer which will make all the difference, however if you had read any of my other posts you would already know that...
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