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I agree CP1972 the stadium is the real marker and all our rivals have developed their infrastruture. I hope to god we see some positive from them soon,.


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You know my views on this Stan, im with you all the way. dont understand why our people cant see this, is it cos we are more desperate than others..... probably...... ill say to the brothers and sisters out there, take the sh!t out your eyes and put your foot down and demand more, do you think United or chelsea would put up with this ..... Hell no. but we accept the bu11sh!t, and think its OK.

FSG PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT YOUR A55 AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!

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I think they've played every card right and to the letter so far.

They've done whats right in most ways and that is very important, as well as crucial, particularly at this stage. This isn't about getting back to the top, and falling back into mediocrity again!

This is why it won't be instant coffee, we are still in transition here. It's slow, sometimes painful and bumpy, but we've got to stick with it and reap the rewards later.

We've already had a few small signs, (cup competitions or not) we HAVE won something this season....and I'm positive we can win another thing to, before it ends!

Which is more than some teams can say this season, yes, MAN CITY INCLUDED!

This is about getting us to the top and sustaining it! That's why everything has to be done right and feel right! Because if isn't and it's not done patiently, without gradually building, then as quick as you've built the house on the sand...it will fall down pronto, even quicker than it took to build it.

We have to make sure all the building blocks are in place, one by one, if we miss one out, it won't be complete....and we'll all be shouting JENGA! laugh

That cannot be the risk, therefore any risks that are taken, will be thoroughly thought out before any decision.

I'm glad we've got these owners to be honest, they haven't just come in and tried to do it "there way" by forcing and pushing themselves onto us. They respect the history and the tradition, they respect the fans being more than just "fans". It's a very close club and community, which they've understood from day one.

They were prepared here, make no mistake about it! For me they are the right size shoe for the foot, if they wasn't, it would never have happened in the first place.

Remember: "Fail to prepare, prepare to fail".....and they prepared!

Once we get back to the top (a matter of time) it won't feel artificial or rushed either. It will feel RIGHT.

I'm sure they'll admit they've made some mistakes here and there, which is totally normal....but from the looks of it, they're starting to correct some of those, as well as learn from them.

We'll soon see just how serious they are, with the activity in the summer, meaning the players coming in and any changes to backroom or boardroom.

What we do know is, they are currently looking for a Director of Football...I doubt this time they'll be going for a Comolli type figure, that's for sure!....and that can only be positive!

Hats of to FSG, they're doing alright for me....and especially hats of to Linda Pizzuti. Nice one John! wink

You f*cking pimp! laugh

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Craney remind me what these building blocks are because from where I am sitting there has been nothing yet. Unless we go into semantics and intangiables as you are prone to do. Or we can say they are better than Gillet and Hicks how about that one. And yes John's wife is a cracker what first attracted you Linda to the billionaire John Henry ?


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I think you are reading too much into this Stan!

John's Missus is a Fox!! wink

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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I agree with you on that Craney. I don't see any reason to criticise fsg.

.They invested around 40 million into the club just on player sales.
.Let Kenny spent all the money made from player sales. 70 odd million.
.Let Kenny spend on whoever he wanted to.
.Have been quick in dismissing those they thought were not performing.
.Turn up to a large number of games.
.Have done a large number of interviews regarding the direction of Liverpool.
.Appear to be committed to doing with us, what they did with the Red Sox.

It doesn't bother me that they didn't turn up to the memorial service. I think think that is a day for those that have that day deeply ingrained into their heart, maybe it would have been classier to have appeared. But these men are busier than all of us put together. I don't think any less of them for not appearing.


Tell me more ! what direction is that I must have missed it but I am desperate to find out.


You don't think Henry and Werner have commented on their strategy for Liverpool? They clearly have. Whether you think they are acting on it is a different question.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Craney remind me what these building blocks are because from where I am sitting there has been nothing yet. Unless we go into semantics and intangiables as you are prone to do. Or we can say they are better than Gillet and Hicks how about that one. And yes John's wife is a cracker what first attracted you Linda to the billionaire John Henry ?


A little unfair Stan. They have brought Standard Chartered, Warrior and other smaller commercial deals to the table. They have managed debt and addressed management structure internally and basically created a far more professional outfit. The test ultimately is the stadium and it's commercial return will dwarf Champs league money with an extra 2mil game minimum before all the other spin offs.
Some mentioned UTD, well they are 650million in debt and have to service it each year, their gold/green campaign ended up a farce as the club now sell them(incredible!). Nothing radical required from our fans, more a persistant squeeze.

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Big red kop what is the strategy then?


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Originally Posted By: cp1972
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Craney remind me what these building blocks are because from where I am sitting there has been nothing yet. Unless we go into semantics and intangiables as you are prone to do. Or we can say they are better than Gillet and Hicks how about that one. And yes John's wife is a cracker what first attracted you Linda to the billionaire John Henry ?


A little unfair Stan. They have brought Standard Chartered, Warrior and other smaller commercial deals to the table. They have managed debt and addressed management structure internally and basically created a far more professional outfit. The test ultimately is the stadium and it's commercial return will dwarf Champs league money with an extra 2mil game minimum before all the other spin offs.
Some mentioned UTD, well they are 650million in debt and have to service it each year, their gold/green campaign ended up a farce as the club now sell them(incredible!). Nothing radical required from our fans, more a persistant squeeze.


CP1972 yes they did get those deals but the question is will they get them again in say 5 years. We are trading on past glories. Both of these outfits wanted new market exposure and Liverpool was an opportunity at that time. But come 5 years of where we are now that opportunity won't be there. Its time now for progression and the softly softly will not be enough particlary Dalglish failing this year in the key money spinner champs league. It worries me it really does and I feel some just don't see it but I think you do. Albeit you might not be as vocal as me.


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And CP1972 you say they have managed debt not sure about that there have been no new funds injected as far as I am aware did FSG borrow to buy LFC in which case the debt has just been transferred to FSG. And we are of course FSG - Liverpool FC is just a brand name.


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