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but can it not also be said we are in the process of an overhaul. raffa is not responsible for the last twenty years, just the last 5, and we,ve been more succesful in the last five then we were in the previous 15.

i agree that things arent perfect. i would ask questions about pelegrino being there, prob just filling the hole till sammi comes back to coach. i also think the physio room is littered with cowboys.
lastly, with our full team we lost three games. hardly worth throwing everything away for is it?


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He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
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Originally Posted By: flameboy09
but can it not also be said we are in the process of an overhaul. raffa is not responsible for the last twenty years, just the last 5, and we,ve been more succesful in the last five then we were in the previous 15.

i agree that things arent perfect. i would ask questions about pelegrino being there, prob just filling the hole till sammi comes back to coach. i also think the physio room is littered with cowboys.
lastly, with our full team we lost three games. hardly worth throwing everything away for is it?
How can you say we have been more successful in the last five years than the previous five when we won about three times as many trophies under the Frenchman. You have to look at where we are going under the current manager and if you are honest the future does'nt look bright at all and in fact it looks like we are going backwards, it's not as though we are looking like arsenal who like ourselves have been trophyless one season longer than us but you have to say they do have a bright future with there kids maturing well and also with the entertaining football they play. i do think in most ways the current manager has improved us since the previous one but now we are at the stage where we need someone better again, someone with better judgement of the transfer market, someone who will get more out of the players we have available and someone who will change this mind numbing football we pay every week.

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to be honest i dont share the same opinion. Firstly Emp i dont think the players have lost faith, and i also think there is a lot of interpretations going on that could be viewed in a different light. i.e. in the west ham game, the hammers couldnt have been luckier on all three goals. gifts and miracles all over the place. also, no other club comes back from 3-0 against AC in a CL final, it was an amazing achievement that seems to be getting repainted as "lucky" as the years pass without a PL trophy.
Ged, i think all clubs can dream of a "better" manager, but the truth is there is no guarantee with any manager. i also dont think the football we played at the end of last season and also against birmingham the other night was in anyway mind numbing.
As for Houllier, he won trophies, but wishy washy ones for the most part, i think raffa is on the verge of making us truly great but we must wait till the end of the season before any decisions are made. he could be our fergie, and we have to be patient, otherwise we could lose out on a decade of dominance. im willing to risk a season or two to be sure before i want him to leave.


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Originally Posted By: flameboy09
to be honest i dont share the same opinion. Firstly Emp i dont think the players have lost faith, and i also think there is a lot of interpretations going on that could be viewed in a different light. i.e. in the west ham game, the hammers couldnt have been luckier on all three goals. gifts and miracles all over the place. also, no other club comes back from 3-0 against AC in a CL final, it was an amazing achievement that seems to be getting repainted as "lucky" as the years pass without a PL trophy.
Ged, i think all clubs can dream of a "better" manager, but the truth is there is no guarantee with any manager. i also dont think the football we played at the end of last season and also against birmingham the other night was in anyway mind numbing.
As for Houllier, he won trophies, but wishy washy ones for the most part, i think raffa is on the verge of making us truly great but we must wait till the end of the season before any decisions are made. he could be our fergie, and we have to be patient, otherwise we could lose out on a decade of dominance. im willing to risk a season or two to be sure before i want him to leave.
Please get it right the football was mind numbing, the football you talked about was only for the last two and a half months of the season what about the previous 6 or 7 months, you seem to be forgeting the infamous Middlesborough game was february 28 how good was the football up until then apart from one or two games, you seem to forget we had to rely on eight or nine injury time goals to rescue victories against absolute rubbish not to mention we were booed off at home twice last season against Hull and West Ham even though we were top of the league, this shows how bad the football was.

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Hardly anyone wanted Rafa sacked last year, so don't make things up like "rafa chokes the team...everyone wants rafa sacked". It is just wrong.
i dont care if he is sacked or walks away i just want him and his stale, negative football gone, i also want his backroom staff gone with him and if he takes the two yanks with him then happy days. I am fed up to the back teeth with managers who send the team out worrying about what the opposition are going to do first, for f*cks sake we are supposed to be Liverpool Football Club teams should be running scared of us not the other way around.

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Every thread that starts out on the forums end up with Emp and Gedthered bashing Rafa. Waist of time trying to chat to LIVERPOOL SUPPORTERS with Fergie/Wenger lovers hijacking the threads!


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Originally Posted By: SA_Red
Every thread that starts out on the forums end up with Emp and Gedthered bashing Rafa. Waist of time trying to chat to LIVERPOOL SUPPORTERS with Fergie/Wenger lovers hijacking the threads!
Dont talk f*ckin stupid will you, the buck always stops with whoever the manager is and as a manager he will always be judged against the best managers in the league and what they have done, it's called a yard stick if you did'nt already know, it has nothing to do with Loving Wenger or Ferguson it's about how far behind those two great managers we are with the current incompetent fool we have in charge now.

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