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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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I don't think it was affected by outside forces but what if it was? He's the manager and he is paid to adapt or can success only be achieved in perfect circumstances ?

He is a total joke he really is and he is making Liverpool into a laughing stock. What do the other fans think seeing this garbage in the papers every other day? I have lost all faith in the club and I cannot take it seriously anymore until he leaves us.


With over 4000 posts, I think everyone knows what your views on Dalglish are. What I dont understand is the need to re state the same things day after day. Doesnt it get boring? You are entitled to your opinion, but to call Kenny a 'joke' is out of order and shows a complete lack of respect. The topic of this thread was based on another poster's misinterpretation of what Dalglish said. The conclusion to the thread should therefore be that it was started on false grounds. Full stop.


Mike if it’s ok with you I will post my opinions on our hapless manager as I see fit. I may repeat the odd thing but who doesn’t? There’s only so much to say or perspectives. In my opinion he is a joke and as each day goes by he looks more and more ridiculous. Why can’t he keep his head down and work at the job rather than speaking to the press it seems every day. I do understand he has to hold press conferences but it’s how you manage them and he is managing them awfully at the moment one lurid headline after another. Yes the press will try to sell newspapers it’s their job and its Kenny’s to put Liverpool in the right light with the public. I say again in my view he is a joke. As for that word respect it’s the most misused in the English language. I respected my old headmaster but as a customer of LFC (and a paying one at that) I am able to comment on performance and when I am not satisfied. Kenny Dalglish was a great footballer but was and is a lousy manager and poor to the point of embarrassment with the media. If I think that is a joke then why am I not able to say so?


I suppose the key question for me would be, is it going to do the club we support any good?

And what about the next manager who doesnt match your expectations?

I am directing this question at you, though i am aware you have a personal opinion on dalglish' management that stretches back to his first stint. It is possibly more relevant to the countless posters who want him replaced, and will no doubt campaign for the next guy to be out if he doesnt win the league or qualify for the champions league at the first time of asking.

The point is, if we dont get behind the liverpool manager and support him when things arent rosy, when will we ever progress again? There has to be some realisation of the position we are in, how far we have fallen behind, and that only solidarity is going to help us get back there.

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Mike if we got a new manager I would support him particularly a new up and coming one. If we had a bad spell I would support him for say up to 2 years. As for Dalglish I did not support him but gave him a chance at the begining of this season. I could not work out his signings but gave it a go. Since then its been a disaster and the Dalglish of old I remember is back and not changed. Therefore I see it as pointless carrying on like this what will change? Its almost pointless following Liverpool at the moment because the end game is clear. An FA cup win won't change things. The die is cast and its how we manage out of it that matters.


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You are completely wrong there i am not Faz. I see this a lot where someone doesnt agree with an opinion and then gets accused of just being someone else who they dont agree with using a multiple account.

To be honest with you i can't wait for this joke of a season to end. I just pray that changes are afoot.




Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
I think that some people are reading a bit too much into things... over-reacting far too much in my opinion.

I just wish that at least LFC fans would stop haranguing Kenny. There's not really much more to say on either side of the debate surrounding Kenny, so why can't we just give it a rest and get behing the man at least 'till the cup semi if not the end of the season?



Let's think positive and cheer ourselves up for a bit. A good result at the weekend, hopefully another in mid-week and we should be looking forward to a Wembley semi-final. Not constant moaning about Kenny this, Kenny that... it's just ridiculous.

So, people are laughing at our misfortune. who cares? that's what happens in sport. We'd be doing the same if some other teams were in the same boat. The important bit is how we respond.

Do we take it with dignity and show a united front as a club, albeit with serious work behind the scenes to find a solution? Or do we allow ourselves to be divided and torn apart through in-fighting. I suggest we get a grip and adopt the former.

Bye the way, I notice quite a few more trialists posting. More multiple accounts? rednick sounds suspiciously like Faz? wink

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Another thing I will say Mike re the word respect (whatever it means). If Dalglish is in post next season and this carries on or gets worse its going to get very nasty and I mean at Anfield. If you think the kop would not chant something think again it could happen and if it does it would be a dreadful moment. It may not be soley directed at Dalglish it could be against the owners as well.

But for all of us LFC is our first choice not any ex player or foreign billionaire will shallow pockets.


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Originally Posted By: rednick
You are completely wrong there i am not Faz. I see this a lot where someone doesnt agree with an opinion and then gets accused of just being someone else who they dont agree with using a multiple account.

To be honest with you i can't wait for this joke of a season to end. I just pray that changes are afoot.




Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
I think that some people are reading a bit too much into things... over-reacting far too much in my opinion.

I just wish that at least LFC fans would stop haranguing Kenny. There's not really much more to say on either side of the debate surrounding Kenny, so why can't we just give it a rest and get behing the man at least 'till the cup semi if not the end of the season?



Let's think positive and cheer ourselves up for a bit. A good result at the weekend, hopefully another in mid-week and we should be looking forward to a Wembley semi-final. Not constant moaning about Kenny this, Kenny that... it's just ridiculous.

So, people are laughing at our misfortune. who cares? that's what happens in sport. We'd be doing the same if some other teams were in the same boat. The important bit is how we respond.

Do we take it with dignity and show a united front as a club, albeit with serious work behind the scenes to find a solution? Or do we allow ourselves to be divided and torn apart through in-fighting. I suggest we get a grip and adopt the former.

Bye the way, I notice quite a few more trialists posting. More multiple accounts? rednick sounds suspiciously like Faz? wink


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Originally Posted By: rednick
You are completely wrong there i am not Faz. I see this a lot where someone doesnt agree with an opinion and then gets accused of just being someone else who they dont agree with using a multiple account.

To be honest with you i can't wait for this joke of a season to end. I just pray that changes are afoot.


If my suspicion offended you I apologise. No offence was intented... it was just a thought as your language, not just your opinion, is very similar.

The fact that we have different opinions is not an issue - that's what makes things interesting. It's just that on the subject of Kenny, we're having the same demoralising points being made almost every minute. It's not constructive and it's not going to help the club in any way.

Most of us agree that if Kenny has to go, then the end of the season is the best time - or at least not until after the cup semi. So the plea is, having had the same debate over and over again over the last week or so, and with a few games round the corner now, why don't we just lay off the guy?

Isn't it in the best interest of LFC to get the best reulsts we can over the next few weeks even of we think Kenny should step down thereafter?


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Originally Posted By: rednick
My point is that KD is completely oblivious to the shortcomings of his team. Kenny still thinks it's been a good season and that is what i have a major problem with.


He started the season with 3 possible cups to win. We won 1, are in the semi's of the next and cant win the league... 2 out of 3 isnt too bad so I can see how he thinks the season isnt a total failure


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Whilst Kenny has had his painful moments during interview (painful for me to watch I mean), I think too much is being made of this. He didn't say none of its his or the teams fault he just mentioned liverpool can only concentrate on things they have control over, and we have had plenty of things that have been out of our control which is true.

What do you want him to do? Chant we've been sh!t we've been sh!t I couldn't manage a pirate ship whilst offering up his testicles in recompense for all the wrong he's done? It was a standard interview by a manager under pressure. No big deal. lets not get upset about it.

I don't think he is the right man, but we should never boo at a game. The owners will know the feelings of the fans without having to cheapen ourselves.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Mike if we got a new manager I would support him particularly a new up and coming one. If we had a bad spell I would support him for say up to 2 years. As for Dalglish I did not support him but gave him a chance at the begining of this season. I could not work out his signings but gave it a go. Since then its been a disaster and the Dalglish of old I remember is back and not changed. Therefore I see it as pointless carrying on like this what will change? Its almost pointless following Liverpool at the moment because the end game is clear. An FA cup win won't change things. The die is cast and its how we manage out of it that matters.


We would have a better chance of an FA cup win if the fans got behind the team wouldnt we? I wouldnt turn my nose up at an FA cup.

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