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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Too stubborn, too arrogant, too petulant, too unwilling to learn, too riddled with past failure. FFS - can we just move forward????


Sounds like you're describing Kenny

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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Interesting read!

Henry replaced Red Sox' former manager with a 61 year old one who hadn't been in the business for a decade.

Ring any bells?

I think it's time FSG show what they're made of.

We desperately need some good news regarding the new arena, and we equally desperately need some replcements for all the flops brought in recently.

The clear out of last year was good, but some new dross have moved in at Melwood. Get rid ASAP!

Manager? We need a top notch one, and I'm not talking about O'Neill now. Capello, Lööw, Mourinho or something like that is what we need. Just make it happen, FSG!


Not targeting at you VG but that's the problem with the forum these days.

People want mourinho, joachim low, Hiddink and all the world class managers etc (but please no capello) but they don't realize that there's next to no chance in hell that we'll be able to get them. Some just shout for the sake of shouting as if we're RM or Barca and every manager would die to work for us.

My stand is still clear - name me a realistic and available manager that can take over from KK. No mid-table unproven managers please as I'd rather have rafa back.

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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Interesting read!

Henry replaced Red Sox' former manager with a 61 year old one who hadn't been in the business for a decade.

Ring any bells?

I think it's time FSG show what they're made of.

We desperately need some good news regarding the new arena, and we equally desperately need some replcements for all the flops brought in recently.

The clear out of last year was good, but some new dross have moved in at Melwood. Get rid ASAP!

Manager? We need a top notch one, and I'm not talking about O'Neill now. Capello, Lööw, Mourinho or something like that is what we need. Just make it happen, FSG!


Not targeting at you VG but that's the problem with the forum these days.

People want mourinho, joachim low, Hiddink and all the world class managers etc (but please no capello) but they don't realize that there's next to no chance in hell that we'll be able to get them. Some just shout for the sake of shouting as if we're RM or Barca and every manager would die to work for us.

My stand is still clear - name me a realistic and available manager that can take over from KK. No mid-table unproven managers please as I'd rather have rafa back.


Right mate, I agree with you, we are no ones first choice. So I don't think we can get big Mou in to stop the rot but there are a sh!t tonne of exciting managers who are yes 'unproven' at the top level of the PL but here's the crack, Kenny hasn't been proven at any level for over 15 years. 15 years, think how many changes you've seen to football in that time. I don't care if he's been involved in 'football' there is a difference between popping in at the academy and being around to managing. Kenny is no longer a proven manager. I'd rather take a punt on a younger, exciting possible talent who is unproven than the unproven guy who seems to be trying to instill some methods he used 15 years ago that clearly aren't fitting.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
I can't really see why people want O'Neill. We need to look to someone young and hungry the likes of Lambert.


I like the way O'Neill's teams play and he certainly has some charisma in addition to being a presence during matches. He was thought to be Rafa's successor a couple of years ago when Hodgson.

I do agree, however, that a young guy getting his first big taste could really do the trick rather than a retread or a pipe dream big name.


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forget about young managers, it doesn't work out as often as you think, Byern tried with Klinsman and failed, Chelsea tried with AVB and failed, Milan tried with Leonardo and failed.

our clear target is to be a constant strong side and in the League, a manager that can keep the team playing at a high level game to game over 38 matches. its a different set of skill.

#1 available is Capello, you cant fined anyone in European football with a better record in league competition.

he is a bitter pill to swallow but necessary, just live with him for 2-3 years.

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Originally Posted By: EastMan
forget about young managers, it doesn't work out as often as you think, Byern tried with Klinsman and failed, Chelsea tried with AVB and failed, Milan tried with Leonardo and failed.

our clear target is to be a constant strong side and in the League, a manager that can keep the team playing at a high level game to game over 38 matches. its a different set of skill.

#1 available is Capello, you cant fined anyone in European football with a better record in league competition.

he is a bitter pill to swallow but necessary, just live with him for 2-3 years.
the football would be dire with him at helm

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I guess the point is Henry does not tolerate losers for very long I wonder what he thinks of this. He may not be a football expert but you don't have to be to see this is not working and the £113m signings have delivered almost nothing extra to the team. That fact alone should spark hin into action never mind our league status which is a very very long way from champions’ league football. In fact if we stay as we are I would tip us for about 8th next season that cannot be acceptable. As for who the manager should be any experienced manager would be an improvement Kenny has clearly been out of the game too long and was not that good when he was experienced.


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Im going to bust a testical if anyone else mentions dross like lambert or an obvious poor choice like o'neil. There is no manager that would come currently managing in the PL that would be even close to a good choice to bring in with a view to keeping for 5 years +

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the football would be dire with him at helm


but it would be successful, Real Madrid who love "pretty football" called on him 2 times to fix things and he did winning them the League 2 times.

he will give us a solid foundation as a consistent disciplined side, and another manager could pick it up from their.

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Agreed!

Capello also was very successful at Juventus, Roma and Milan!

About the issue that no one would even touch LFC with a pincer at this time: Of course we can fix that. It just means we'll have to pay some serious cash to get what we want! If that wasn't the fact then how could Citeh rise from the twilight zone?

If we don't want to splash the money (or even worse don't have it at all), then I'd predict a long time in the twilight zone for LFC.

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