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Originally Posted By: drome
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Commoli is here because of his links and knowledge of european football. I credit him for all the foreign signings. Kenny is very well known for his preference to buy british, therefore it is reasonable to assume:

-Kenny signed carroll, henderson, adam, downing
-Commoli signed suarez, coates and enrique

Unfortunately this once again makes kenny's judgement look worse than ever as he is only responsible for our poorest signings. Whilst I am against the idea of having a 'director of football', we can see from the above that it is a very good idea and is certainly working for us at the moment. Maybe DC should be given more control....?


in this post you've made a judgement based on very flimsy assumptions. what is evident is that you don't back kenny anymore and you've made that point repeatedly.

if the above post is a display of the process of how you arrive at your opinion, i'm sory to say it's kind of dissolving the importance of your opinion for me.


Which bit do you disagree with:

A) comolli is known for his links in european football
B) kenny tends to buy british

You may not agree with some of my opinions but the above points (and therefore the conclusion I came to) are surely undeniable unless you are backing kenny to the hilt regardless of any probability or overwhleming evidence.....in which case, your refusal to accept the obvious dissolves 'your' opinion because no matter what is said against Kenny you will dismiss it.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: drome
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Commoli is here because of his links and knowledge of european football. I credit him for all the foreign signings. Kenny is very well known for his preference to buy british, therefore it is reasonable to assume:

-Kenny signed carroll, henderson, adam, downing
-Commoli signed suarez, coates and enrique

Unfortunately this once again makes kenny's judgement look worse than ever as he is only responsible for our poorest signings. Whilst I am against the idea of having a 'director of football', we can see from the above that it is a very good idea and is certainly working for us at the moment. Maybe DC should be given more control....?


in this post you've made a judgement based on very flimsy assumptions. what is evident is that you don't back kenny anymore and you've made that point repeatedly.

if the above post is a display of the process of how you arrive at your opinion, i'm sory to say it's kind of dissolving the importance of your opinion for me.


Which bit do you disagree with:

A) comolli is known for his links in european football
B) kenny tends to buy british

You may not agree with some of my opinions but the above points (and therefore the conclusion I came to) are surely undeniable unless you are backing kenny to the hilt regardless of any probability or overwhleming evidence.....in which case, your refusal to accept the obvious dissolves 'your' opinion because no matter what is said against Kenny you will dismiss it.


wrong there Carheex - Commolli scouted and bought Bale, Huddlestone, Lennon, Dawson - none are from foreign climbs. You cannot say who does what as we don't know. The only reference for what is going on is that Commoli heads up the scouting team for the club, assists in allocation of funds, works with agents etc and helsp to set the strategy for the club. Kennys role is manage the team and to work within this frame work and assist in the final purchase of a player. This was comments by Tom Werner a year ago. So to attribute success or failure to a person is way off the mark. Its this collective responsibility that decides on a player arriving or leaving.

if you are unhappy then 7/8 people need to go, not just one. Personally I think the structure is fine but the current success rate of 50% is not better than somebody doing it themselves. I would be expected 75/80% of purchases to come off as the preparation and planning should be better.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By: cp1972
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: drome
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Commoli is here because of his links and knowledge of european football. I credit him for all the foreign signings. Kenny is very well known for his preference to buy british, therefore it is reasonable to assume:

-Kenny signed carroll, henderson, adam, downing
-Commoli signed suarez, coates and enrique

Unfortunately this once again makes kenny's judgement look worse than ever as he is only responsible for our poorest signings. Whilst I am against the idea of having a 'director of football', we can see from the above that it is a very good idea and is certainly working for us at the moment. Maybe DC should be given more control....?


in this post you've made a judgement based on very flimsy assumptions. what is evident is that you don't back kenny anymore and you've made that point repeatedly.

if the above post is a display of the process of how you arrive at your opinion, i'm sory to say it's kind of dissolving the importance of your opinion for me.


Which bit do you disagree with:

A) comolli is known for his links in european football
B) kenny tends to buy british

You may not agree with some of my opinions but the above points (and therefore the conclusion I came to) are surely undeniable unless you are backing kenny to the hilt regardless of any probability or overwhleming evidence.....in which case, your refusal to accept the obvious dissolves 'your' opinion because no matter what is said against Kenny you will dismiss it.


wrong there Carheex - Commolli scouted and bought Bale, Huddlestone, Lennon, Dawson - none are from foreign climbs. You cannot say who does what as we don't know. The only reference for what is going on is that Commoli heads up the scouting team for the club, assists in allocation of funds, works with agents etc and helsp to set the strategy for the club. Kennys role is manage the team and to work within this frame work and assist in the final purchase of a player. This was comments by Tom Werner a year ago. So to attribute success or failure to a person is way off the mark. Its this collective responsibility that decides on a player arriving or leaving.

if you are unhappy then 7/8 people need to go, not just one. Personally I think the structure is fine but the current success rate of 50% is not better than somebody doing it themselves. I would be expected 75/80% of purchases to come off as the preparation and planning should be better.


You've pulled out a few english named players but largely he is known for his scouting of youths across europe, and Kenny is known largely for buying british - which could explain their partnership. I'm not saying that my previous assumption is 100% correct but it would make sense and as I said, it is a reasonable conclusion considering none of us 'know' for sure.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX

Which bit do you disagree with:

A) comolli is known for his links in european football
B) kenny tends to buy british

You may not agree with some of my opinions but the above points (and therefore the conclusion I came to) are surely undeniable unless you are backing kenny to the hilt regardless of any probability or overwhleming evidence.....in which case, your refusal to accept the obvious dissolves 'your' opinion because no matter what is said against Kenny you will dismiss it.


what overwhelming is this?

your point makes the assumption that comolli has absolute control of all eurpean buys. and that kenny is in absolute control of british buys. and i don't really think you or anyone on here knows that as a fact either.

and on the basis of that you said that it makes kenny's judgement look even worse.

it makes the assumption that this level of divide exists at the club. that there is no communication betweeen the powers at the club, that kd has no say in euro buys and commoli has no say on uk buys. and that john henry sanctions this policy. i don't accept that it is reasonable to make those assumptions.

my disagreeing with your opinion is not based on me having no criticisms of kd. i do but i don't think he should be sacked. i disagree with your opinion on the transfer policy as you described above on the basis that your argument is weak and contains little or no fact.

maybe can you present overwhelming evidence to support your assumptions on transfer policy?

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Comolli is known for his links in European football.
So he had f... all to do with coates signing.

If comolli had so many good links in Europe, then us fans will see top quality players like ie hummells, hazard, marin, javi m, m gomez etc etc being signed this Summer, or players of this quality.

Come on comolli show us fans that u r the man wen it comes to signing quality foreign players.

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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
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I dis not think Suarez was a Kenny signing is that right? I thought that signing was in progress when Kenny took over?


Kenny was at the helm when he was signed. Hodgson didn't sign him. We could say Comolli signed him. Then we could say Comolli signed Carroll, Hendo and whoever else. We're getting back into the territory of "who gets the credit for Istanbul - Rafa or Ged?". Where does the madness stop?
suarez was signing if it had been roy or kenny in charge

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History books will say rafa was manager, wen lfc won.the cl on.pens,
Don't rafa with houllier team.

Certain fans need get over this and move on

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