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I just don't get how we go from banginin goals at the end of last season with the squad we had, to no being able to hit a barn door with a so called 'improved' squad?

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Well, based on an impressive footballing display, we should be the team in 4th, we have been a lot better than chelsea and newcastle and quite a bit better than arsenal over the course of the season. Our biggest problem? Finishing chances.

It's quite clear Kenny doesn't think that much of Carroll as he came on in the 93rd minute in a must win game. A liverpool no. 9 that doesn't get to play in the big games. 35 million spent on a striker that evidently even his own manager doesn't rate. We won a cup, in for another, played pretty well over the course of the season, but if it was any other man the kenny at the help they would have gone at the end of this season for buying carroll. If that money was kept for even a half decent striker. We would probably be in 4th.


We are where we deserve to be. 7th place, with no chance now of top 4. We haven't played well enough, we haven't created enough, when we have created, we haven't taken those chances well enough. But I disagree strongly that we've been better than Chelsea and Newcastle. We haven't. And I don't think we've played pretty well over the season. We've been poor for the majority of the season, with the occasional high point.


We've created considerably more chances than all of the afore mentioned teams. So yeah we have created enough over the course of the season. Stats prove it mate. Its taking the chances we HAVE created that is the problem.

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Stats don't prove the QUALITY of chance. Like today we had 13 corners. We didn't get a decent chance from any of them. So in terms of effectiveness we may as well have had 0 corners. We could have 30 shots a game and it wouldn't matter unless one of them was a good chance. We haven't created enough.

As I posted on the other thread:

Carroll for Newcastle 11 goals in 21 games

Bellamy averaging one goal every 3 games or so over a long career

Kuyt great scoring record for feyenoord, reasonable for Holland, scores 10-15 goals for liverpool every season under previous managers

Suarez scores one in 2 internationally, great record at Ajax

Gerrard, scored as many as 24 goals in one season, 23 in another

Adam 13 goals in 36 games last year


These are not players who can't score if given enough decent chances. If oyu believe it's ONLY about not taking chances, then you've fallen for one of Kenny's tricks. We've not created enough GOOD chances all season.


Okay quality of chance, 5 penalties, 15+ times hit the wood work. A bunch of missed sitters. Proof is still there buddy. Can't run away from it. And they aren't creating more chances cause we've created nearly double them. Plenty of chances falling to people in the right area. They aren't putting them away. Sorry but those are the facts.

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the facts are we do not score enough goals.hit the post,miss penalties miss chances all these are reasons thats its happening.we bought carrol for he's goals he doesnt score any,we bought adam for his set pieces and they are either crap or he doesnt take them.the whole team really lacks confidence when it comes to shooting so we try to walk it in the net and we get crowded out.

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