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Its like the problem in SA, although the segregation and racial quotas are abolished, there are still ignorant people the boer society wanting to 'reclaim' the country for just the whites.

It's the same as crime. Why isn't it getting better? It should be but what would the police force do then? what would the government use to keep us afraid and behind our locked doors if there were no criminals roaming the streets, what would they put on the news to frighten the old?

Keep us scared, segregated, helpless. Divide and Conquer.

Thats exactly what i was going to say,aslong as there are people who make a living from finding and fighting racism it will always be there.there will always be isms.
you have to remember hough thats Suarez didnt refuse to shake evra's hand because of hid colour.

It's really dumb, isn't it? Mandela's "Rainbow Nation" is one where the majority of people get along really well with people of different races, but the ones you hear about most are idiot politicians who either want an all white or an all black country. Some still cling to the out-dated idea that everything needs to be "racially representative", when that's just another form of racism because it makes a person's skin colour important rather than unimportant. South Africans are generally sport-mad, and I find it impossible that someone holding onto a right wing ideology is too appalled to watch The Beast trample an Aussie or a Kiwi on the rugby field, or quakes in his boots in fear that his country is being undermined every time Hashim Amla hits a century (which is pretty often). Goddamn lunacy... I wish people would just grow up.

Amla has an odi average of 56!!!! and people still undermine him, its ridiculous.

My problem is that people are saying "Well John Barnes says it's not racist; John Barnes is black; that means it's not racist!"

That's not necessarily true. John Barnes doesn't speak for all black people any more than I speak for all Americans. Some people just have thicker skin than others. Just because I have a black friend that's not offended by monkey chants doesn't mean they're not offensive.

I believe education for all is the way forward, We need to understand that we all came out of Africa originally, racial abuse against someone else is also against ourselves. However establishments everywhere have a vested interest in ensuring that education is not available for all as it would threaten their hold on the lolly. The media won't run with John Barnes ideas either as they too have a vested interest in stoking up and then reporting on acts of racism. It also an historical fact that racism is not just white on black or black on white, throughout history marauding colonialists used racial denigration ( the need to civilize The heathen it was said) to justify their enslavement of people everywhere regardless of colour of their skin. As long as we retain a system of social organization that exalts the virtues of jungle law in social and economic activity (the strong takes all) we will always have poverty and racism in society. Governments everywhere acting on behalf of the elite practice a form of racism against the 'lower orders' every day and most people seem to see it as the 'natural order' of things. We have to change an awful lot before we will eradicate racism I'm afraid.

I'm sorry but that's one of the more ludicrous conspiracy theories I've ever heard. You think that the crime rate is government-induced because of its desire to ensure that people live in fear? That's a very dangerous game. A fearful public is a restless public, and we saw the change that a restless public can cause last spring. I would argue that the government has a much greater interest in keeping everyone blissfully fat and happy. Less unrest means less dissent, which means that the incumbents keep their positions.

I can come across a little extreme at times.... I don't think they want upheaval, but they'd be rubbing their hands at a few riots here and there, knowing the vast majority will condemn it, but not want to 'rock the boat'. They're too busy watching Xfactor and stuffing McDonalds down their necks. I don't think the government 'induce crime', but it could be reduced if they really had the people's interests at heart. it's part of a wider conspiracy. One thing for sure is they don't want everyone to be blissfully happy, not a chance. Hardship is good. They control the news and the media and there's a reason the Muslim community is represented in the news as it is, and a reason people are allowed to claim stacks of benefits, whilst we work hard and get little in return. It breeds contempt and bitterness, much like the induced 'recession'...

I think I'll stop now, I don't want to turn this into a 'conspiracy' thread.

Fair enough. I didn't mean to insult you, and my post came across a little strong as well. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but you're entitled to believe what you want. At least you're not buying everything the folks at Fox News (or the British equivalent) tell you.