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If the sweet FA sick had even an ounce of common sense about them, or even a shared brain cell amongst their gin driven apologies for brains...as if, just imagine that ey shocked they'd have simply done what was done a couple of weeks ago at the start of the Chwlsea QPR match, and do away with the handshakes to difuse any possible tension.

It's almost as though they WANTED this incident to happen, and let's face it, most of us knew that if Luis was in the starting line up that this WAS going to happen.
KD should have left him on the bench for the start of the match, as I in all honesty expected him to do.
THAT would be my only critisism of this whole over hyped srorm in a teacup

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he did bite an opponents ear before. i would think that was his own doing and has impacted on his reputation and was pre-fergie.


And that was before we signed him. Are you saying now we should not have done?

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If the sweet FA sick had even an ounce of common sense about them, or even a shared brain cell amongst their gin driven apologies for brains...as if, just imagine that ey shocked they'd have simply done what was done a couple of weeks ago at the start of the Chwlsea QPR match, and do away with the handshakes to difuse any possible tension.

It's almost as though they WANTED this incident to happen, and let's face it, most of us knew that if Luis was in the starting line up that this WAS going to happen.
KD should have left him on the bench for the start of the match, as I in all honesty expected him to do.
THAT would be my only critisism of this whole over hyped srorm in a teacup


Absolutely totally agree. Of course if we think about it a 10 match ban would have taken this out of the equation wouldn't it. It was always a date set in tablets of stone for something to happen. And all that happened was that one man who really does not like another man because he believes he did him wrong refused to shake hands. I would have done exactly the same thing or would have avoided it if possible. In actual fact I have done it because in this world I am not going to let anyone know that they can get one over on me by foul means and for me to say its ok do it to me again.

There were ways to avoid this. The FA could have abandoned the handshake like they did the week before. But having set this precedent they chose not to.

Alternatively Suarez could have been given special dispensation to come on late after the pleasantries were exchanged. I was praying that Suarez would not shake his hand because if you believe you have been cheated you must be true to yourself and everything you believe in.

The divide on here is such that if this is a true reflection of how our fans really feel then I am sure that, very sadly, he will be gone at the end of the season. And then Ferguson will truly have done what he set out to do because YNWA will never be the same and will lose a lot of its meaning.

I agree that leaving him on the bench was perhaps an option but there are no compromises in the game of football and certainly not in this game.

The FA have orchestrated all of this. The hearing delays, the length of ban, the selection of the panel. And now they are actually powerless to act on what happened yesterday. They brought all this on the game but won't deal with those that bring disrespect week in week out because they are English.

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There were several things that could have been done.

1. Suarez could have shaken Evra's hand the way Dalglish said he would.
2. Dalglish could have started Suarez on the bench, in order to protect him as much as possible from the crowd, having seen how Evra ultimately failed to handle the pressure for 90 minutes at Anfield - the handshake would not even have been a footnote in such a case.

Somehow we opted for neither.

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Alternatively Suarez could have been given special dispensation to come on late after the pleasantries were exchanged. I was praying that Suarez would not shake his hand because if you believe you have been cheated you must be true to yourself and everything you believe in.


Beautifully worded, and extremelly true.
Why have we got to be seen to be agreeing and pleasing all these arse wipes and boot lickers, just to appease them and their pathetic mealey mouthed slithery slimey PC views?

Up yours I say, and leave us more realistic ones to do what we believe is right and correct for our own sanity and well being.

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There were several things that could have been done.

1. Suarez could have shaken Evra's hand the way Dalglish said he would.
2. Dalglish could have started Suarez on the bench, in order to protect him as much as possible from the crowd, having seen how Evra ultimately failed to handle the pressure for 90 minutes at Anfield - the handshake would not even have been a footnote in such a case.

Somehow we opted for neither.


Possibly but you cannot allow events to dictate who you pick. KK has to pick the team he believes will win a game. Whoever the opposition is.

Evra clearly failed to handle the pressure a fortnight ago and it was the same yesterday with his antics again. He failed to control himself as captain of the club and was trying to rile Liverpool fans and players. He succeeded and so is his kunt of a manager with his comments after the game. I am so glad we have decent honest people supported by decent honest fans. YNWA.

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Actually I think you have to allow events to dictate who you pick. Fergie made a mistake allowing Evra to start at Anfield. They lost that game because he made an error late that let Kuyt in.

We lost the game after the scuffle in the tunnel at half time - something that probably would not have happened had Suarez not started and/or not refused the handshake.

We didn't NEED to start Suarez - we needed to play our form players in a comfortable formation, and that we did not do.

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Actually I think you have to allow events to dictate who you pick. Fergie made a mistake allowing Evra to start at Anfield. They lost that game because he made an error late that let Kuyt in.

We lost the game after the scuffle in the tunnel at half time - something that probably would not have happened had Suarez not started and/or not refused the handshake.

We didn't NEED to start Suarez - we needed to play our form players in a comfortable formation, and that we did not do.


Sorry but Evra had to start at Anfield. He is captain and Ferguson does not run away from anything as much as I hate him. Similarly Dalglish does not run away either so had to start Suarez in this one.

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