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yes but you can ask for a decent performance from us at the very least!??

we are starting to play consistently average, which is worrying.

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And capello did with england

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Originally Posted By: deakin
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That was poor beyond belief.

worse than Bolton Match. Suarez had nothing to go on all match. We'll never finish 4th playing like that.

Midfield was atrocious. Downing, Henderson, Kuyt, spearing and Gerrard, all may as well stayed at home.

Evra needs to be slapped like a b*tch.

I'd have Rafa Benitez Back.


People do Kenny/Hodgson comparisons all the time but does anyone know how Houllier's record stacks up against Kenny's?


As far as i know kenny has the best win percentage of any lfc manager


All time yes. In the last 12 months, not so much. He's behind Benitez's final season in terms of pretty much everything other than goals conceded - and Benitez wasn't deemed good enough on that result.

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has a LFC team ever gone to OT and done so little? no attacking threat whatsoever. pathetic. one paced, one dimensional.

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Yeah, I realize Kenny was pretty successful his first time around. I'm not questioning that record at all. I would just be curious to see how Kenny's last 12 months compare to any one of Houllier's years. For me, we were at a fairly low ebb at that time, but my gut feeling is that our league performances were better then. I'd just like to see some statistics.


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After Wolves we had a chance to take 7 points from our next 3 games (Spurs(H), Utd(A), Arsenal(H)) to be in pole position for 4th. 5 would still have been a decent return. 4 is the maximum possible now, which leaves us still in last place for 4th unless Newcastle, Arsenal and Chelsea ALL slip up his weekend.

I could have stomached an ugly 1-0 over Spurs. I could have handled a fighting draw at Old Trafford. But we never for a moment lifted our game above "dire" in 180 minutes. The Liverpool highlights package from the last two games contains about 10 seconds of footage where Adam provids his best dead ball delivery this season for Suarez to score. That's it. Still think we can make 4th, yeah? I'm beginning to strongly doubt we have the ability.

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Even Sunderland seem to be catching up to us.

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Originally Posted By: AvailableOnAFree
Yeah, I realize Kenny was pretty successful his first time around. I'm not questioning that record at all. I would just be curious to see how Kenny's last 12 months compare to any one of Houllier's years. For me, we were at a fairly low ebb at that time, but my gut feeling is that our league performances were better then. I'd just like to see some statistics.


You can get league tables by month and such from the official site for all EPL seasons: eg CLICK HERE which shows the position at the end of February in Houllier's last season: P26 W10 D9 L7 Points: 39 GoalDiff: +9. If we lose against Arsenal in our next league game we would stand worse than that. We qualified for the CL on 60 points that season, btw. That will definitely not be enough this season.

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Originally Posted By: deakin
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Yeah, I realize Kenny was pretty successful his first time around. I'm not questioning that record at all. I would just be curious to see how Kenny's last 12 months compare to any one of Houllier's years. For me, we were at a fairly low ebb at that time, but my gut feeling is that our league performances were better then. I'd just like to see some statistics.


Do you mean houllier at his worst and kenny now?


I mean Kenny now and Houllier during any one of his several years. You can choose Houllier's worst year to compare if you want, but you could use any of them.


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Yeah, I realize Kenny was pretty successful his first time around. I'm not questioning that record at all. I would just be curious to see how Kenny's last 12 months compare to any one of Houllier's years. For me, we were at a fairly low ebb at that time, but my gut feeling is that our league performances were better then. I'd just like to see some statistics.


You can get league tables by month and such from the official site for all EPL seasons: eg CLICK HERE which shows the position at the end of February in Houllier's last season: P26 W10 D9 L7 Points: 39 GoalDiff: +9. If we lose against Arsenal in our next league game we would stand worse than that. We qualified for the CL on 60 points that season, btw. That will definitely not be enough this season.


Great post, thanks for the link.


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