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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Originally Posted By: cp1972

Only Carroll has been what you call poor, the others have contributed and generally improving(although Enrique has looked dodgy last two games). Let them grow into the club.


I disagree

Apart from Enrique and Bellamy I haven't really been impressed by any of our summer signings

Adam started well but has looked out of his depth recently, Downing has been a big disappontment, although he has lookec better in his last few outings, Henderson doesn't realky bring anything to the team and we've seen the sublime and the horrendous from Coates so it's probably to early for a full assessment of him yet

These don't compare to the type of players Houllier - Hyypia, Henchoz, Hamann, Camara - and Rafa - Alonso, Luis Garcia, Reina - brought into the ckub during their early years

And they certainly don't compare to the likes of Thompson and Toshak

I was actually one of the few at the time who said I couldn't see our summer signings taking us back into the top four and whilst i don't want to come across as 'I told you so' I think that assessment at this current time looks about right

Of course there's more games to go and the team might go on a run - in which case my assessment will have been wrong (and I hope it is) - but just as with the away victories against Chelsea, Everton and Arsenal, it takes more than a couple of good displays, albeit against a top side, to convince me this club is moving in the right direction

There's been too many false dawns this season


Surely little Luis was the best example ever of sublime and horrendous?

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Originally Posted By: jock

Surely little Luis was the best example ever of sublime and horrendous?


Possibly but think of the amount of goals he scored and more importantly the games he scored them in - he was a major part of our early success under Rafa

Thus the good far outweighs the bad

I remember an away game against Norwich where he was having an absolute stinker, and then about halfway through the game he beat the keeper with a prevciesely timed lob from outside the penalty area

Apart from Suarez (who wasn't a summer signing anyway) and Bellamy (who cost nothing) none of our recent imports would be capable of doing that

Luis Garcia was one of my favourite players of the Rafa regime and whilsat we didn't fall apart when he left, not in the same way we did when he buddy Xabi left, we didn't win anything after his departure - a pt often forgotten by those who still want to have a pop at Rafa and his signings - who for the record are FAR FAR FAR better than anything Comoli has come up with - and is likely to ever come up with

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you are cherry picking the best buys of previous managers. Houllier also brought in Ferri, Biscan, Diao, Cheyrou, Camara. Rafa had Josemi, Nunez, Morientes, Gonzalez who were not great.

So not every manager buys 100% well. I do agree on some of your assessments though. But I see these players improving significantly in recent weeks.

Finally you are far too negative in your outlook. Remember you have been banging on about players being failures since september, hardly what you call giving players a chance.
We have not had the embarassment of a 6-1 drubbing at home like United or spurs(5-1) chelsea( 5-3) or Arsenal 8-2 hammering at United. Or knocked out of cups at home by minnows(palace). So whilst we are frustrating with daft draws- chronically bad as you see us we are not.

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Jim

you are cherry picking the best buys of previous managers. Houllier also brought in Ferri, Biscan, Diao, Cheyrou, Camara. Rafa had Josemi, Nunez, Morientes, Gonzalez who were not great.'


A bit unfair on Camara and Biscan who had their moments but none of these (apart from Morientes who was a flop) were really first-team players and we didn't get rid of quality - like Aquilani and Merieles - as a result of bringing them in

You can't compare someone like Charlie Adam to Xabi Alonso

I'm the first to admit that we've been unlucky and deserve a greater haul of pts than we've got but recent performances agaimnst the likes of Blakburn, Stoke and Bolton have been very flat

I hope you're right and these players do get better. Downing has started to play a bit and hopefully Adam can regain some of the form he showed earlier in the season but no one can claim to be surprised that Carroll hasn;t made the most of his chance in Suarez's absence

Where we are currently is still a siappinting position for LFC to be in

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